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Trayvonís Friend Rachel Jeantel Prompts National Debate About Black Youth Culture
The Atlanta Black Star ^ | June 28, 2013 | Nick Chiles

Posted on 06/28/2013 11:41:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Mr Rogers

What happens during the lawyers’ summation speeches? Can the defense bring up the evidence that the judge ruled as inadmissible, i.e. the toxicology test showing Martin had marijuana in his system, his past history of fighting and suspension from school, and his mother having kicked him out of her house because of bad behavior, etc.

Also, Zimmerman told the police that Martin had been wandering about the neighborhood looking over the houses. In the rain. THAT is why Zimmerman was suspicious of him.


101 posted on 06/29/2013 7:12:59 AM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: tanknetter

It does not negate rebuttal when a black says the truth. The black in question is always castigated as self-hating and a race traitor. I believe Bill Cosby caught all sorts of flack for his essay.

There is no logic on the left except the logic of agenda uber alles. In their minds, anyone is either with them or against them. This status is under constant review. No deviations are tolerated unless immediately followed by prolonged and humiliating apologies and retractions. Even then, the deviant will be subject to some ostracizing for a period of time before being rehabilitated. The Maoists call this process self-criticism. The most revered and unimpeachable leader will be purged in a nanosecond if they stray from the Party line or otherwise tell the truth.

See David Horowitz. I remember his purge. It took place over a weekend. On Thursday, he was casually acknowledged as one of the top 3 leaders of the New Left. By the following Monday, a mention of his name brought a blank stare and: “Who is David Horowitz?”. This is not an exaggeration.

Today, within society at large, witness the purging of top military leaders and the current designation of government or media whistleblowers as Internal Threats. Race, gender or sexual orientation do not confer immunity. Speak out and suffer the consequences. Otherwise, keep your head down, your mouth shut and follow the Leader. If the Leader zigs and zags, it is up to the follower to keep up with the program. The safest answer is to admit ignorance of the currently approved policies, deny any interest in policy or politics and suffer through condescending informational overload as your self-designated nanny proceeds to educate you. The approved response to that is to say: “Thank you.”

Conservatives have been marginalized. The next step is elimination. We tend to keep to ourselves and limit our interactions with the opposition. Still, today there are quasi-progressives everywhere and one can put a target on one’s back even by speaking truth in what is perceived as a safe environment.

They can organize with impunity. Our organizing is subversion. Case in point is the government/media/academia treatment of the Tea Party and the few remaining outspoken conservatives in politics and media.


102 posted on 06/29/2013 7:14:31 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A perfect example of what LBJ’s programs have done to the black community. A life of poverty, dependence and ignorance.
103 posted on 06/29/2013 7:27:15 AM PDT by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies. And lies, and lies and lies forever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
... her inarticulateness and seeming lack of intelligence.

Seeming?

'Seeming' lack of intelligence? LOL...

104 posted on 06/29/2013 7:41:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: nikos1121

That was proven a year ago at http://www.theconservativetreehouse.com They matched up times of whatever phone records were made public to a map of the complex. If the defense puts on a case, you’ll see a similar proof that will leave no doubt that Trashcan literally went out of his way to kill GZ.


105 posted on 06/29/2013 7:50:36 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Mr Rogers
I tend to agree with your premise. She may have perjured herself on the stand but the overriding element is that as a culture, blacks are not held to the same standard as whitey thus Rachel will get a pass whereas a white trash talking hick would be vilified for expressing the same attitude as she did on the stand. We are witnessing to some degree the contempt and racial bias against whitey that permeates the black culture, aided and abetted by the race baiters in the media. I do not think she manufactured her story but she may have been coached and prepped since the prosecution knew that she would be perceived an unsophisticated young black woman right out of ghetto casting. It apprears that it did not work. She was simply caught in one lie too many that her credibility is in doubt. what the prosecution is hoping is that whitey's prejudices will come out and makes her THE FOCUS and not her conflicting testimony. Remember the litmus test for blacks is much much lower than it is for whites thus making HER the object of the debate and not her testimony so the conversation changes to black riots, violence, cries of racism, will make the jury think twice of aquitting Zimmerman.
106 posted on 06/29/2013 7:56:15 AM PDT by bubman
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To: freeangel
“We need to bring back the literacy test before we let these people vote”

"Or print the ballots in cursive."

LOL!! Best application of the "We no longer teach cursive" meme, yet!

107 posted on 06/29/2013 7:58:39 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Gaffer
How does this ‘citizen’ support herself? Does she live with her mother? Is she in school? Does she have a job? Does she get a ‘check?’

After her name became public, it didn't take long for bloggers to start piecing together some very interesting tidbits. She started complaining in 2012 on her fairly new Twitter account that her new braces were hurting her. Combine that with the HOA paying ransom -- excuse me, a settlement -- to Trashcan's parents' lawyers at about the same time, and you might begin to see that there's a slush fund being used to sway witnesses.

108 posted on 06/29/2013 7:58:48 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: freeangel

Beautiful!


109 posted on 06/29/2013 8:01:16 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: nikos1121

You need to get up to speed on the case. Excellent end-of-day wrap-ups with a lot of video are here http://www.legalinsurrection.com


110 posted on 06/29/2013 8:02:31 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy
After her name became public, it didn't take long for bloggers to start piecing together some very interesting tidbits. She started complaining in 2012 on her fairly new Twitter account that her new braces were hurting her. Combine that with the HOA paying ransom -- excuse me, a settlement -- to Trashcan's parents' lawyers at about the same time, and you might begin to see that there's a slush fund being used to sway witnesses.

It's not rocket surgery to figure out that Dee Dee, Sybrina, Crump, and the prosecutor's office have colluded to concoct her story and create the narrative that Zimmerman murdered Trayvon.

111 posted on 06/29/2013 8:04:38 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

The name “Francine” has come up. I forget if they are friends or neighbors or what. I don’t know if Francine will be called as a witness.


112 posted on 06/29/2013 8:09:19 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: binreadin
I wish I had your faith in intelligent people ... I don't. Look at the belief systems at your average American college and tell me if you want ‘intellectuals’ making major decisions? Not me. That group voted solid for Obama. I want an honest vote of anyone interested enough to bother registering to vote. And yeah, that includes this woman. If she's interested. My guess is she never signed up...
113 posted on 06/29/2013 8:14:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: Liberty Wins

The prosecution isn’t done yet, then the defense will put on their case. Plenty of time for marijuana usage, fighting videos, school expulsions, etc. to come into evidence. I don’t think we have even heard from the medical examiner yet. Prosecution slip-ups or clever defense cross-examination might allow those matters to come in even though I think right now they are not allowed.


114 posted on 06/29/2013 8:15:00 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: tacticalogic

We may yet discover what many have suspected from the beginning — that the astonishingly improbable circumstances of her initial questioning, and what is in practical terms a forged document attributed to her after the fact, will reveal that her testimony, including the built-in lies of age and non-hospitalization, was created before she was auditioned and cast for the role as its presenter.


115 posted on 06/29/2013 8:24:26 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s my comment: DeeDee was caught in lie after lie after lie after lie, not the least of which she said she “wrote” a letter she later said she can’t read. The Jury would be proving they are all functional morons if they believe one single thing this illiterate pig said.

Personally, I think in that fateful phone call (which we can prove she made by phone records) she was egging him on to put a beatdown on that creepy-ass cracka. She probably laughed when she heard him punching Zimmerman’s head into the concrete.


116 posted on 06/29/2013 8:27:32 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: jiggyboy
her testimony, including the built-in lies of age and non-hospitalization, was created before she was auditioned and cast for the role as its presenter.

She's the only one that can pull this off, because of the phone records. The prosecution knows what the physical evidence on record is, and they've told her what she needs to say to stay consistent with that. I also think she's causing them problems because she's not able to remember and stick to the script.

117 posted on 06/29/2013 8:31:15 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Soul of the South

Interesting she said in testimony she goes to church.


That means nothing. Obama went to Rev. Wright’s church. LOL


118 posted on 06/29/2013 9:23:04 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: TalBlack

That goes without saying.


119 posted on 06/29/2013 9:34:36 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...more savvy trial-watchers will focus on the fact that she never wavered in her contention that Zimmerman was following Martin, which is the most important aspect of her testimony."

Accepting this argument, 1. Does this equal second degree murder, ie with a depraved mind? 2. That Zimmerman "followed" Trayvon was never at issue.

Zimmerman reported that he followed Trayvon after he took off running to see where he went and stopped with asked to be the civilian 911 operator. The operator had asked Zimmerman, where Trayvon was, indicating, as admitting, that could be permission or a request to look and see where he went.

It's irrelevant, if you are a creepy ass cracker or white hispanic or wannabe cop.

Justice would be for Zimmerman to become NBC's largest shareholder.

120 posted on 06/29/2013 9:40:09 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (The Stupid Party, they've earned it.)
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To: BigCinBigD

That’s for sure.


121 posted on 06/29/2013 9:41:07 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
2. That Zimmerman "followed" Trayvon was never at issue.

No, but I think she went "off-script" when she said he ran home to the Dad's girlfriend's house where he was staying, and then to the back yard and that Zimmerman followed and confronted him there.

122 posted on 06/29/2013 9:45:13 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

“She’s the only one that can pull this off, because of the phone records.”

Wrap some tape around your head because it might just explode from this excerpt from her deposition with lead prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda:

BDLR: OK, and is that phone number under your name or under somebody else’s name?

Dee Dee: Now, it should be now under my name.

BDLR: And do you know what the provider is…is it T-Mobile? Or do you know?

Dee Dee: Yeah, T-Mobile…[mumbles]…I think.

It should “now” be under my name? She doesn’t know who she writes the check to every month? Excuse me?

This little tidbit is just one of many from the circumstances of the various interviews of “Dee Dee” that suggest that her testimony was created by Parks/Crump before she was the one auditioned and cast as the person to deliver it.

Do read the whole thing if you have the time. You will see that these guys knew that this whole thing stank out loud a year ago.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/02/06/beyond-absurd-about-witness-8-dee-dee-telephone-interview-trayvon-martin-family-attorney-benjamin-crump-i-did-not-ask-her-name-or-address/


123 posted on 06/29/2013 10:36:06 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: tacticalogic

I forgot to note that BDLR, as usual, asked a leading question regarding the carrier. So far, we have seen phone records only from T-Mobile. Either BDLR made a good guess or this wasn’t the first time they had gone through this Q&A.


124 posted on 06/29/2013 10:39:58 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: FrdmLvr

Wow.


125 posted on 06/29/2013 10:43:51 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: I want the USA back

We need “like” buttons on FR.


126 posted on 06/29/2013 10:47:18 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: jiggyboy
It should “now” be under my name? She doesn’t know who she writes the check to every month? Excuse me?

What are the chances it's an Obamaphone? As far as the chances of her writing a check (or anything else), it makes my head hurt to consider the probability of that happening.

127 posted on 06/29/2013 11:35:58 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: nikos1121

following a suspicious person in and of itself is not being a vigilante. it is following a suspicious person. if he wanted to be a vigilante he wouldn’t have a habit of phoning the police about what to do or not do. besides if a guy on neighborhood watch can’t follow a suspicious person then we can’t have any neighborhood watches.


128 posted on 06/29/2013 12:09:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: wintertime
I am shouting and jumping up and down and having a fit.

For all the right reasons. When schools were integrated, before the New Left used events to destroy the peaceful order that the schools had with fomented unrest (race rioting in schools, incited by communists), not only were the academic expectations for black children every bit the equal of those expectations for white children, but black children were expected by their teachers and often by their parents to excel in order to be respectable in the community at large.

The reason for that was indeed cultural, even societal in many areas, in that blacks often had to work to a higher standard in order to receive credit for their ability, in order to overcome a social inertia which had postulated they could sing and dance, and made reasonably good menial laborers, but which rarely gave credit for the doctors and scientists among blacks.

Such prejudices were seldom limited to racial parameters, we even see them today when snarky comments are made about political candidates graduating from a State College instead of an Ivy League University--the podunk State grad has to run rings around the person with the 'proper' degree to get the credit they deserve. The coastal urbane still look down their noses at flyover country.

Anyway, as racial unrest was incited in the newly integrated schools, at first there was resistance from the elders in the black community and school staff where I grew up. These people knew no good would come of this, after all, the children were at least as well positioned to take advantage of the means their parents saw as the ticket to prosperity: an education. That was the stated purpose of integration: to allegedly afford the same educational opportunities to blacks that whites had.

In typical Communist fashion, instead of bringing everyone up to the same level (and I'm not saying the black schools were not well staffed, many of the teachers were very good, by any standard), everyone was brought lower than before, to a new least common denominator, with the exception of a few schools where those in the local political power structure sent their children (before the flight to private schools).

Many of their parents had worked as field laborers, in kitchens, on the wharves unloading oysters, building piers, seawalls, roads, and houses, and knew the rigors of hard labor--and like anyone else, wanted better for their children. Better their children were doctors, lawyers, even secretaries, than scrubbing toilets and cutting tobacco (although the latter put many children through college).

But the New Left subverted that, they turned the High Schools which hadn't been gerrymandered out of being integrated into war zones. Those who had been raised to never refer to their darker skinned neighbors as "ni**er" learned the word when they were 'jumped', pummeled and mugged by groups of black youths and 'paybacks' went the other way. A fight that had little reason and no purpose quickly produced its own, and an era of unprecedented racial hostility was born.

Discipline fell apart as attorneys attacked school white staff who attempted to keep order as "prejudiced" against the blacks, and white students picked up the cry of 'we have equal rights, too'. Black teachers and staff were less than eager to punish white students because of possible racially based repercussions.

Order was lost, and with it, a generation.

Students who had achieved little were graduated to remove them from the ranks of the miscreants in the schools, if they were not hauled off in handcuffs by law enforcement.

Along the way, set-asides, quotas, "affirmative action" all moved the herd along, and entire neighborhoods changed to avoid the issue (essentially re-segregating the schools somewhat), but the goal of excellence in education was lost.

The Communists of the New Left prevailed, and for all their claims of 'looking out for their brothers', the damage done, the incredible setbacks continue, bringing the US closer to a race war than perhaps at any time in its history. Even the unrest of the '60s was limited to some areas, and often only the youths of that generation (The elders I knew wanted nothing to do with the growing unrest. One commented to a relative "We sent those folks home. They were down here trying to stir up trouble with our white folks, and we ain't never had no trouble with our white folks."

But now, with the exception of those who have not bought into the New Left victimhood anti-white (the man is holding you down) meme, the more pervasive attitude is one of 'the white man owes me'. The old guard, those elders who wanted better for their children, who saw hard work and educational excellence as the key to prosperity, is largely gone, at least so the media would have us believe. Unfortunately, the media would give the same perception to black people--that the gangsta lifestyle is the legitimate majority, and perhaps this has become a self-fulfilling prediction, enabled by the selective popularization/exploitation of "music" which glamorizes that fast track to cultural decay. That that decay has transcended cultural and racial barriers via popularization in the media, from movies to music and TV.

Are there angry black people out there? You betcha! Pull that on my culture (it's being done) and I'd be ticked off, too.

The real anger, though is being focused (by theNew Left's idealogical descendents, more communists) on the wrong people, naturally, as a means to hoodwink people who have been robbed of opportunity and prosperity by the very agents and agencies who claim to have their best interests at heart, but who only want to maintain control of a population by truly cutting off avenues to prosperity which might truly free that population, for their own personal prestige and profit.

Unless and until we all demand better, demand more, and rise to mutually defeat the destructive policies which continue to destroy the very fabric of Western Culture, the decay will continue. This begins at home with parents, parents who demand their children be better, learn more, excel, stay clean and sober, and morally straight, who will band together with other parents and other communities to demand better, not cheaper, not more funding, not more set-asides or mulligans but rigid standards which must be met.

Without this, there is a future full of lazy illiterates administering medical care to an aging population who can read the labels, and the collapse of the very civilization which relies on the very intelligence it eschews.

129 posted on 06/29/2013 12:26:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

“My thought is in 4 years that disgusting pig is going to ...be living off my taxes.”

Not to worry. America will be broke well before then.


130 posted on 06/29/2013 12:31:56 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: Smokin' Joe
The underlying problem is that our nation's system of K-12 schooling was a socialist-entitlement from the beginning. It was doomed from the beginning because its socialist-entitlement foundation was a rotten one to build on.

So?...Where do you think that we would be as a nation if there had **never** been compulsory state run K-12 schooling? Do you think that Americans ( the most generous people since the dawn of humanity) would have allowed this nation's children to go uneducated? Personally, I don't think so.

131 posted on 06/29/2013 1:43:24 PM PDT by wintertime (Yuri Besmenov was a prophet.)
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To: wintertime
Do you think that Americans ( the most generous people since the dawn of humanity) would have allowed this nation's children to go uneducated? Personally, I don't think so.

I have known people who only had an eighth grade education--but they got that in the 50s. Even a mediocre student of that day, at that level, could run rings around the average pupil of today in terms of composition, grammar, and mathematics. The standards were that much more rigorous, and it was done without a calculator, computer, or the internet.

They took those basic tools and often did quite well.

(some) Americans took the time to teach others, whether they were friends, relatives, or employees, and pass on what they knew. If nothing else, it made getting things done easier whether that be on the farm, an industrial workplace, or just around the home.

132 posted on 06/29/2013 2:56:09 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: ASA Vet

Thank you! I hadn’t heard that before. I’ve done some searching, and have seen only one reference to “creepy ass cracka” being sexual in nature...from Ann Althouse. Even the Urban Dictionary doesn’t have the sexual definition.

I think it’s questionable, and hope you can provide a link.

Thank you, again!


133 posted on 06/30/2013 12:08:42 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (To the GOPe ~ Chickens...comin' home...to roost!)
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To: ASA Vet

Thank you! I hadn’t heard that before. I’ve done some searching, and have seen only one reference to “creepy ass cracka” being sexual in nature...from Ann Althouse. Even the Urban Dictionary doesn’t have the sexual definition.

I think it’s questionable, and hope you can provide a link.

Thank you, again!


134 posted on 06/30/2013 12:08:42 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (To the GOPe ~ Chickens...comin' home...to roost!)
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To: ASA Vet

Sorry for the double post. I think gremlins have infested us, again. ;-)


135 posted on 06/30/2013 12:12:12 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (To the GOPe ~ Chickens...comin' home...to roost!)
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To: Mastador1

The daughter of Haitian and Dominican immigrants, Jeantel’s first language was Creole. She later picked up English and has clearly become conversant in the language of urban Miami. But West continued to speak to her as if she were some outlandish extraterrestrial rather than a teenager. He asked her about the expressions used in “your culture,” as though teenagers of all races don’t have their own linguistic idiosyncrasies.

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2013/06/27/commentary-a-witness-for-trayvon-who-stands-her-ground.html

Obviously America needs more immigrants from Haiti and the Dominican Republic. They add so much to our culture.


136 posted on 06/30/2013 5:18:17 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: binreadin

I agree but we know it will never happen. I mean, people like her even get to vote more than once.


137 posted on 06/30/2013 5:25:54 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Secret Agent Man

Okay...I read you all loud and clear, but a couple points.

The defense was jumping around high fiving that they’ve got the case one...I listen to the first prosecutors witnesses, and I’m thinking the same thing...THIS CASE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO TRIAL.

Surely the jury will acquit him, but the media and your Jesse Jackson’s and your Geraldo’s are saying that “the star witness stood firm!”

What all are saying is the truth. If you map out Zimmerman’s movement’s and MArtin’s it looks like Martin went home....then doubled back.

Secondly, how can any reasaonble thinking person listening to the eye witness who saw Martin hitting Zimmerman not come to the conclusion that Martin instigated this, and it was self defense. I think even Derchowitz said it should never have gone to trial.

The judge should stop the trial, because it is obvious at this point....but she won’t.


138 posted on 06/30/2013 5:35:56 AM PDT by nikos1121 (¬ďTo err is human; to forgive, divine.¬Ē Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: Big Giant Head

Any reasonable person, based on what we know is true...should come to the conclusion that:

1. Zimmerman acted in self defense
2. This should never have gone to any trial.
3. Some question about the prosecution being less that forthright.

However, because we have such a divided country, racially speaking, thanks to our coward in chief...this case is all about race....

Thank God, Zimmerman was not pure white, as there would be no way he’d get a fair trial.


139 posted on 06/30/2013 5:41:08 AM PDT by nikos1121 (¬ďTo err is human; to forgive, divine.¬Ē Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: nikos1121

your two points, i agree with you.


140 posted on 06/30/2013 12:01:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jiggyboy

it is probably a cheap burner phone bought at a local target store and might have been bought by someone else and passed to or borrowed by Jeantel.


141 posted on 06/30/2013 5:09:15 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: dixiechick2000

look on urbandictionary under “ass cracker”


142 posted on 06/30/2013 5:15:12 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Thanks!

When I first searched, I used both spellings and was rewarded with the one racial definition.


143 posted on 07/01/2013 11:39:16 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (To the GOPe ~ Chickens...comin' home...to roost!)
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