The Coin of Liberalism: Time to Rethink the 2016 Presidential

06/29/13 | An Anonymous Disillulsioned GOPer

[Finny]

I've been honing this vanity for a week to post on FR "someday." Saw Jim Robinson's post about Palin hinting at third party with Mark Levin ... and realized "someday" was today. I hope Palin and Levin see it.

[Finny]

See my first comment. Thanks.

[Bryanw92]

Progressivism is the enemy. Liberalism is just a nice-sounding euphemism. By allowing the progs to define themselves as liberals allows them to act “nice” by asking us if we want handicapped people to starve.

Progressivism is about “progressing” to the next level of humanity through Marxism. It is humanity without faith in the true God pursuing some ideal that cannot exist without God, so they demand that people deify the state and the 20th century has already shown us that catastrophe ensues when people elevate the state to that level.

[no-to-illegals]

may be your second comment Finny.

[no-to-illegals]

you might want to reconsider something Finny ... both parties consider Conservatives as being the enemy.

[cripplecreek]

The sides of the coin are Marxist and democrat with democrats including “moderate” republicans.

[no-to-illegals]

Amen creek ... Thank You!

[Finny]

Fine. Call it progressivism, call it liberalism, call it whatever you want. The point is that the enemy is NOT the Democrat party. We have always voted as if it was, and voting that way is what got us here. Time to stop.

[PapaNew]

Well, I’m glad you worked so hard and posted this. I wish, however, we would move away from calling the Left “liberals.” Liberal means lover of liberty, which they are not. We need to call them what they are: socialists. Just like we need to call public schools what they are: government schools.

[no-to-illegals]

bad mistake in your post Finny. Am only telling you the truth.

[Finny]

Semantics. "Moderate" Republicans rule in presidential politics, and that is the third party option I'm promoting. As LONG AS YOU TRUST that the GOP will someday oust the moderates ... you're going to be used to further Marxism, progressivism, liberalism, or whatever word you choose to use to describe THE SAME DAMNED CONCEPT.

"Conservatives" have but one small element of all the votes we need in America to save it from government tyranny. A lot of folks who reject and hate progressivism/marxism/liberalism or whatever you want to call it, are NOT "conservatives" and don't think of themselves as such. Trying to use SEMANTICS here to exclude every American on our side who doesn't claim the mantle "conservative," is ... well, Stupid Party thinking.

With respect.

[no-to-illegals]

that is one more excellent point Papa.

[cripplecreek]

Glenn Beck started out with the belief that the democrats could be redeemed but eventually reached the conclusion that they had been entirely compromised by hardline marxists.

“Moderate” republicans are like kapos thinking they can win the favor of the SS guards but in the end, the SS will exterminate the “moderates” as well.

[no-to-illegals]

not exactly Finny ... Conservatives know the definition of conservatism. The majority of this nation is made up of Conservatives practicing conservatism.

[Popman]

——The Democrat party is NOT the enemy. Liberalism is the enemy.-——

Pretty hard to tell the difference....the democrat party embraces liberalism..as long as they do in defference to american values...they are the enemy. ...

[cripplecreek]

A lot of folks who reject and hate progressivism/marxism/liberalism or whatever you want to call it, are NOT "conservatives"

Wow.

[Finny]

Likewise, consider that a lot of folks who would vote for a small-government candidate consider Conservatives as the enemy. It's an all rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangles thing. Conservatives don't have the corner on wanting to reduce government.

[Sans-Culotte]

Fine. Call it progressivism, call it liberalism, call it whatever you want. The point is that the enemy is NOT the Democrat party. We have always voted as if it was, and voting that way is what got us here. Time to stop.

I think what you mean to say is that 'liberalism is the enemy, whether embodied by democrats or republicans'.

[no-to-illegals]

you know creek, I think I've seen enough. Think I'll leave this thread to my betters ... you included of course as being one of my betters.

Finny ... don't want to be angry with you, so I'll leave.

[fatima]

Nice post Finny but I think they are playing with the machines.