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Day 16 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 1, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 1st, is DAY #16 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Last week the prosecution feebly presented the first series of witnesses against George Zimmerman. However, as most observers would note, the witnesses called by the state have so far been more beneficial for the Zimmerman Self-Defense position.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: florida; sanford; skittles; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Cboldt
“He didn't get out of his car while the guy was staring him down. Why not? He was asked. Because he didn't want to confront him.”

Wait-—wait—wait. . .you just accused St Travon of challenging George, but now you are saying George didn't want to challenge St Travon.

I am so glad we have real women on FR that can see, understand, think rather than simply emote and play the Perry Mason “gotcha” game. . .you know, where that one piece of rumor or a single sentence throws the whole case.

Have a nice day.

Don't be afraid tonight when it is dark.

1,301 posted on 07/01/2013 3:31:10 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: RummyChick

I’m a chick. Here’s the difference between you and me in that situation.

While I would choose not to engage TZ, even through a crack in the window, because he had his hand in wasteband. I don’t know if he’s carrying a gun, pepper spray, or skittles.

When he runs away, my “fear” changes to concern for what he’s doing elsewhere. Since I am carrying, I do get out of the car to ensure that he’s not breaking into someone’s home, destroying someone’s property, etc.

So even though GZ said he was afraid of TZ in the car, his fear went away when TZ ran out of sight. Then his NW responsibilities kicked back in.


1,302 posted on 07/01/2013 3:31:19 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: RummyChick
He was circling the car.

Really? That's the first I'd heard that. Who said that?

1,303 posted on 07/01/2013 3:31:52 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: RummyChick

I’m now callin it

you are ignorant


1,304 posted on 07/01/2013 3:31:52 PM PDT by advertising guy (golf in june in Phoenix ? it's so dry, our gators use Gold Bond)
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To: editor-surveyor

Ay yi yi


1,305 posted on 07/01/2013 3:32:05 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Kansas58

The press is despicable.


1,306 posted on 07/01/2013 3:32:47 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 21twelve

Thanks, that should help a bit.
I think what RC is referring to is the interview with Serino.


1,307 posted on 07/01/2013 3:33:39 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: AllAmericanGirl44; RummyChick

I have a great suggestion. Quit cluttering this thread. AND TAKE YOUR BICKERING TO A PRIVATE CHAT!


1,308 posted on 07/01/2013 3:33:51 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: SomeCallMeTim
You'll last longer here at FR is you try not to just MAKE SHIT UP.

Lol. editor-surveyor is one of FR's star birthers. He or she and all of the other birthers have been just making shit up for a long, long time, and they're still here.

1,309 posted on 07/01/2013 3:34:13 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: onyx

It is most definitely about fear.

Remember the statement

about they always get away.

NOT THIS TIME....or so it could play out in a juror members head..

Look, most of you don’t understand why this interroration tape is important and that is okay.

Maybe you will by the end of this.

I was afraid and I only got out of the car after he disappeared to get the name of the street so police would know where to go..when he jumped out at me and attacked me.

VERSUS....

Once someone releases a transcript of that interrogation..read it carefully.


1,310 posted on 07/01/2013 3:34:28 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I’m not a Medical Doctor and I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night but I suggest you immediately take two aspirn and go to bed and don’t log in tomorrow.
Your incessant posting is making me think FReepers should be given word limits,
per diem.


1,311 posted on 07/01/2013 3:34:59 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: RummyChick
I think GZ should be found not guilty but you can’t discount a female jury wondering about why he got out of the car.

Even when it was made clear in testimony that the Dispatcher kept asking George questions that required getting out of the vehicle to answer.

The Address (no signs by the van. Had to walk to find the next one)

The location of the suspect. What did the suspect look like. Was the suspect moving. etc.

1,312 posted on 07/01/2013 3:35:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: 21twelve

Thank you very much!


1,313 posted on 07/01/2013 3:35:54 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Hulka
Said walked around, but not sure if he walked around.

I don't understand your other question, "What does 'challenge' mean to you versus a normal person."

1,314 posted on 07/01/2013 3:36:02 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: snarkytart

SIGH...

find me a transcript of the interrogation tape with exact words and I will SHOW you why O’Mara needs to fix this and HE KNOWS HE NEEDS TO

And I think he will

because you clearly don’t get it.


1,315 posted on 07/01/2013 3:36:15 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Mr Rogers
Most of the women I know are not such pansies. And MY wife expects me to get up and go investigate things that go bump in the night. In fact, the military used to pay me to go in harm’s way. Lots of men have no real trouble with feeling some fear, then manning up and going...

Indeed. Well stated, Mr Rogers.

In fact, I suspect most married men have been called upon by their wives to man up and go investigate something that might or might not end up killing them. Lol.

1,316 posted on 07/01/2013 3:36:41 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I’m sorry. I forgot to put the (/s). My bad.


1,317 posted on 07/01/2013 3:37:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: sleddogs

Amen!

Btw, that poke kinda stung!


1,318 posted on 07/01/2013 3:37:39 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Cyber Liberty

George said it during the re-enactment with police.


1,319 posted on 07/01/2013 3:38:35 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: RummyChick; AllAmericanGirl44
GZ said he was afraid when he was in the car..didn’t he???

Yeah, I would have been too. Every $10 an hour security guard gets afraid when they see someone out of place or acting weird and they know they have an obligation to protect the property they have been charged with protecting.

SO WHAT?

I sometimes have to park my car in bad neighborhoods and I get scared to get out of my car. But I do it anyway. If I cowered in fear rather than faced fear every time I was afraid, I would never have accomplished anything in life.

Jesus H Christ..can none of you understand that O’Mara better be smart enough to see what the female jury could think about that interrogation tape..

You really are an emotional wreck aren't you. Any defense attorney worth his salt would have made sure you would never get on a jury in a case like this.

O'Mara's cross examination of the Lead Officer made it clear that the police were trying to break Zimmerman and they couldn't do it.

You're problem is that you cannot possibly conceive that a man could not possibly think of getting out of his car at night if he were afraid. That is literally insanity. I would have been afraid too, but if I thought my neighbors were being robbed and I saw a suspect, I would make sure that I kept an eye on him until the police arrived. I would not let my irrational fears prevent me from protecting my neighbors.

If you don’t get it..start listening to actual lawyers.. even if you don’t agree with them..if they think it..the jury could think it.

I am an actual lawyer and I don't think the jury will think twice about it. The fact of the matter is that in the grand scheme of things in this trial, whether or not George Zimmerman was afraid when he got out of his truck is irrelevant. The overwhelming evidence is that he shot Martin because he was in fear of his life and was in what he believed was a life and death struggle.

If you believe that Zimmerman is guilty of Murder, then tell me what evidence has been presented to this jury of women that will convince them that you are right.

Evidence. Not emotional baggage and irrational thinking. Just point to the evidence of Zimmerman's GUILT.

1,320 posted on 07/01/2013 3:38:41 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.ca)
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