Skip to comments.Day 16 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
Posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 1st, is DAY #16 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Last week the prosecution feebly presented the first series of witnesses against George Zimmerman. However, as most observers would note, the witnesses called by the state have so far been more beneficial for the Zimmerman Self-Defense position.
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GZ said one time that he wouldnt follow Martin because of his wife.
He has told conflicting stories about WHY he got out of the car.
What was “conflicting” about Zimmerman’s “stories”.
Interrogator: Why do you brush your teeth?
Me: To freshen my breath.
Interrogator: WHY do you brush your teeth?
Me: TO PREVENT TOOTH DECAY!
A couple of different stories, but they’re hardly conflicting.
P.S. I could be wrong about the babysitting part. No one knows if ‘Chad’ was even there. Even if he was, then Brandy’s sister (the one with a drug dealer arrest record) might have been doing the babysitting. Brandy may not have even been living in the townhouse at the time.
Actually, the sh** he bought is just a distraction. While some know it’s a “high” thing...those six jurors likely know zip about it...just like me.
Speaking of the possibility of their being video footage of the incident, were you aware that the HOA had security cameras, but they weren’t working, hadn’t been for a while?
Is that why they settled so quickly with Martin/Fulton ?
I'll go one better, the dispatcher indicated GZ should keep an eye on him. Twice the dispatcher asked GZ to relay TMs actions. Hard to do from a locked car and the suspect out of sight.
Unless they could prove he was on 'lean', you are correct. The Skittles and Drink have nothing to do with what happened.
Can you PROVE, BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, that George Zimmerman was the aggressor?
If you can, Zimmerman's got a problem.
If you can't, not so much.
Thanks much. That clears that up...It was not exposed unless he raised his arms at the least.
I know to turn into my neighborhood because of the big sign on the main road, which name I do know. I then know to take the second left (my street) and follow it around to my house.
In between I pass 3 cul de sacs, none of which I could tell you the name, and I've lived here 10 years.
If Trayvon beat the cracka, Zim was not the attacka.
If insurance picked it up and I'd guess that they did, there's a chance that the "payoff" can be recovered. Just love the possibility.
Did you know that Bubba (Clinton) had insurance that paid off the chick that Bubba perjured himself about.
One of those lessons of life...We do not absorb unnecessary information....which is why we make such lousy witnesses.
“Ah, but that we should all have such humorous typos!”
Maybe we just started something. Perhaps somewhere out in cyberspace, a 14 year old Trekkie read our posts and is now looking at a phaser, a bolt of cloth with “die, Klingon, die” embroidered on it, and a staple gun.
Let's extend that.
If Martin had been afraid, Zimmerman most likely would not have an apparently broken nose and multiple lacerations to the back of his head, because Martin would have fled rather than fight Zimmerman.
Remember, the scene of the death was not down some alley with no escape. It was on an open sidewalk with exits to both the north and south.
And if Martin had been afraid, and shot by GZ, he most likely would've been shot in the back, not the front.
It's the only thing that makes sense that would let Tray get away with killing GZ...and I do believe that's what he intended to do.
I'm sorry for your loss, jacquej.
Yes...didn't he say he holstered his gun as the first cop arrived on the scene?
M.u.s.t. f.i.n.d. w.i.t.n.e.s.s.....
Mona Lisa helped those two" yewts" out, didn't she!
This trial could use a Mona Lisa!
She said her nickname was "Diamond Eugene" and that Eugene was her mother's last name. Are there really many Haitians with the last name< Eugene?
And, what of the cursive letter? I think she said "Francine" (something like that) actually cursively wrote the letter but Janeal told her what to put in the letter. So where is "Francine"?
She signed the letter "Dee Dee". When asked, she said just say "Dee Dee".
Is there really a Dee Dee - another person who goes by Dee Dee?
The Dee Dee picture I saw looked nothing like Janeal. It would take 3, 4, 5 Dee Dee's to make up Janeal's size, I say with "all due respect."
I was guessing the young man and young woman sitting next to Sabrina (sic?) might be Trayvon's sister and brother or steps but they were talking about a brother who is around six y.o.
Maybe he doesn't exist and it is code wording but maybe he does exist and parents don't want him disturbed by attending court and hearing what Trayvon did. I guess he could also be in school, too.
yes he did — but Bernie has nothing else.
Next he will be accused of a bad haircut
See you on the next trial day thread. :-)
What is "The Knockout Game"?
Do you have a link to those pictures? Or do you remember where thou saw them?
I mentioned it the way I did, beginning with the word IF, because it keeps coming up. For a more thorough analysis:
A drinking game - every time Rachel said "axked" for "asked" you throw something back....or, in my case, I ate ice cream!
Seriously, it is really pitiful.
Remember when they started calling Z a "white hispanic"?
Two birds...one stone!
Is that the place he first saw him that made him suspicious? Or was it the clubhouse? Or did he decide to call NEN after he saw him in FT’s yard? If that is the case, and i don’t know it is, but TM standing in the yard of a GZ’s friend is proof that this wasn’t a race thing. If I drive by my friends house, at night and see not that person hanging out in the yard, I’d be suspicious too.ANYONE would.
However, my theory may be all goofed up, lol. I have most things re: the timeline straight, except the whole clubhouse thing.
I don’t see that as problem.
If you’re afraid or in fear sitting your car, then you don’t get out to CHASE THE GUY, but after he runs, you might get out to get an address for the 911. Also, if TM ran, then I would also be a little relieved thinking he wasn’t wanting a confrontation either.
Obviously, he didn’t want the confrontation while Z was on the phone, so how convenient that he waited until Z hung up the phone!
Maybe the "got shot game" will too.
Zimmerman drove from there to the clubhouse, and parked. Martin walked the same direction, noticed Zimmerman, and Zimmerman noticed this. Martin then went on. Zimmerman pulled out of the parking place, and drove down the road keeping an eye on Martin. Martin disappeared, then reappeared. This is where Zimmerman reports to NEN operator that Martin was staring at him, hand in waistband, and this is where Zimmerman recounts at the police station that Martin (maybe) circled Zimmerman's car. None of this is claimed to be at a close distance, not within earshot.
Martin then takes off at a run, or a skip, and goes out of sight. Zimmerman gets out to see which way Martin disappeared. Some people refer to this as "following," be he can't see Martin, and doesn't know where he went, so it's pretty hard to literally "follow" Martin. The NEN operator asks Zimmerman if he is following (which he asks because he thinks, correctly, that Zimmerman is out of the car). Zimmerman says"yes," the NEN operators "we don't need you to that" and Zimmerman says "ok." Zimmerman says that at this point, he is about at the "T" sidewalk intersection.
Zimmerman stays on the phone with NEN for another couple minutes, about. He walks past the "T" (away from his truck), doesn't see Martin down the street, claims he walked over there to get a house address, then Zimmerman starts back toward his truck. He walks past the "T" intersection, and is confronted by Martin.
You're obviously not "ambiphobic."
It’s when roving gangs of feral black youts beat random individual white people unconscious. They say it’s great fun game!
Sometimes they accidentally beat them to death, but it can be argued all creepy-ass crackers deserve it. White privilege.
“it’s possible Martin saw it”
Are you serious? He knows a creepy ass cracker rapist is following him WITH A GUN and he doesn’t RUN HOME as fast as possible, instead turns around and confronts him? Holy crap. I know thugs are stupid, but come on....he had no idea GZ had a gun or if he were stupid enough to have jumped him knowing that, he would have went for it way earlier in the fight when he first jumped him.
Come on girl, you need to take a step back because you are trying to prove hair brained theories with other hair brained theories. Gee wiz, even the lynch mobs out there haven’t come up with some of the crazy stuff you are saying...
Yeah that was also part of it, but only because dispatcher asked for an address and if GZ knew where he went. I don’t think GZ would of got out of the truck if not for dispatchers questions.
Chickening-out, ya think?
I guess I set myself up for that didn’t I???
***note*** I have just noticed my horrible use of the word “their” that should have been “there”. I typed that on my phone and autocorrect hates me. I despise the misuse of their there and they’re....your you’re, too to two, etc. and I want to punch myself in the face when I am the guilty party...autocorrect or not...
ok, continue on with your clever 12 year old humor shenanigans, lol. I will try not to get in your cross hairs again.
Who initiated the phone call? Trayvon or Jeantel?
And at what time?
Good day to you. :-) I just now saw your posting. Yesterday was quite a day, and today is even more so. I was wondering why the prosecutors introduced the Hannity interview and then nothing was said. Now it is made clear. I sure hope the defense can find a ruling that won't allow them to bring up Zimmerman's college courses unless they can prove he was actually in the class when Hold Your Ground Law was discussed.
I see, you are Jeffie’s alter-ego.
Smart, isn’t he!
Enough of this "p!$$!ng"!
How about a shrimp omelet, or a nice plate of catfish and grits with sweet potato fries...maybe a gator basket with onion rings and a bowl of crawdad gumbo with collard-green spring rolls?
You mean like velour or naugahyde?
haha I meant pissy.