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Day 16 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 1, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 1st, is DAY #16 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Last week the prosecution feebly presented the first series of witnesses against George Zimmerman. However, as most observers would note, the witnesses called by the state have so far been more beneficial for the Zimmerman Self-Defense position.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: florida; sanford; skittles; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: RummyChick

GZ said one time that he wouldnt follow Martin because of his wife.

He has told conflicting stories about WHY he got out of the car.
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What was “conflicting” about Zimmerman’s “stories”.

Interrogator: Why do you brush your teeth?
Me: To freshen my breath.

Interrogator: WHY do you brush your teeth?
Me: TO PREVENT TOOTH DECAY!

A couple of different stories, but they’re hardly conflicting.


1,701 posted on 07/01/2013 10:30:59 PM PDT by bluetick (If you're going to err, err on the side of liberty.)
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To: moehoward

P.S. I could be wrong about the babysitting part. No one knows if ‘Chad’ was even there. Even if he was, then Brandy’s sister (the one with a drug dealer arrest record) might have been doing the babysitting. Brandy may not have even been living in the townhouse at the time.


1,702 posted on 07/01/2013 10:32:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Actually, the sh** he bought is just a distraction. While some know it’s a “high” thing...those six jurors likely know zip about it...just like me.


1,703 posted on 07/01/2013 10:34:18 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Speaking of the possibility of their being video footage of the incident, were you aware that the HOA had security cameras, but they weren’t working, hadn’t been for a while?

Is that why they settled so quickly with Martin/Fulton ?


1,704 posted on 07/01/2013 10:35:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Jeff Winston
"He went out on foot looking to see if he could keep track of where Martin went. Martin was going where a car wouldn't go, and he wanted to keep him in sight until the police could arrive so he could tell them where the suspicious person went."

I'll go one better, the dispatcher indicated GZ should keep an eye on him. Twice the dispatcher asked GZ to relay TMs actions. Hard to do from a locked car and the suspect out of sight.

1,705 posted on 07/01/2013 10:36:46 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Sacajaweau
Actually, the sh** he bought is just a distraction.

Unless they could prove he was on 'lean', you are correct. The Skittles and Drink have nothing to do with what happened.

1,706 posted on 07/01/2013 10:38:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: RummyChick
Oops, I mean GZ MIGHT have lost his right..not that he did..since I don’t know if he was the aggressor.

Can you PROVE, BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, that George Zimmerman was the aggressor?

If you can, Zimmerman's got a problem.

If you can't, not so much.

1,707 posted on 07/01/2013 10:39:36 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: 21twelve

Thanks much. That clears that up...It was not exposed unless he raised his arms at the least.


1,708 posted on 07/01/2013 10:39:53 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jacquej

:-)


1,709 posted on 07/01/2013 10:42:06 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Sacajaweau
The only street name I know in my subdivision is my own.

I know to turn into my neighborhood because of the big sign on the main road, which name I do know. I then know to take the second left (my street) and follow it around to my house.

In between I pass 3 cul de sacs, none of which I could tell you the name, and I've lived here 10 years.

1,710 posted on 07/01/2013 10:43:39 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: jjsheridan5

If Trayvon beat the cracka, Zim was not the attacka.


1,711 posted on 07/01/2013 10:44:57 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: UCANSEE2
My guess would be that they carried a huge Lloyds of London Umbrella policy.

If insurance picked it up and I'd guess that they did, there's a chance that the "payoff" can be recovered. Just love the possibility.

Did you know that Bubba (Clinton) had insurance that paid off the chick that Bubba perjured himself about.

1,712 posted on 07/01/2013 10:45:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Trailerpark Badass

One of those lessons of life...We do not absorb unnecessary information....which is why we make such lousy witnesses.


1,713 posted on 07/01/2013 10:48:05 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TigersEye

“Ah, but that we should all have such humorous typos!”

Maybe we just started something. Perhaps somewhere out in cyberspace, a 14 year old Trekkie read our posts and is now looking at a phaser, a bolt of cloth with “die, Klingon, die” embroidered on it, and a staple gun.


1,714 posted on 07/01/2013 10:51:40 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: moehoward
If Martin was afraid he would have gone home.

Let's extend that.

If Martin had been afraid, Zimmerman most likely would not have an apparently broken nose and multiple lacerations to the back of his head, because Martin would have fled rather than fight Zimmerman.

Remember, the scene of the death was not down some alley with no escape. It was on an open sidewalk with exits to both the north and south.

And if Martin had been afraid, and shot by GZ, he most likely would've been shot in the back, not the front.

1,715 posted on 07/01/2013 10:55:29 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
I'm starting to think the phone call was a set up...and she would be a witness for Tray...and they were creating a story while Tray was on his way to beat the sh** out of GZ.

It's the only thing that makes sense that would let Tray get away with killing GZ...and I do believe that's what he intended to do.

1,716 posted on 07/01/2013 11:22:00 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
Maybe he was,maybe he wasn't. That never mattered to me. It was my wife who was convinced he was...till I showed her the map.
1,717 posted on 07/02/2013 1:03:52 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: jacquej
"This horrible incident happened just a week or so before my husband died."

I'm sorry for your loss, jacquej.

1,718 posted on 07/02/2013 2:21:12 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: Uncle Chip
"That is a recipe for getting shot by the police."

Yes...didn't he say he holstered his gun as the first cop arrived on the scene?

1,719 posted on 07/02/2013 2:24:10 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: UCANSEE2
"Odd thinking that there must surely be a Prosecution witness that helps the Prosecution’s case, some where."

*snicker*

M.u.s.t. f.i.n.d. w.i.t.n.e.s.s.....

1,720 posted on 07/02/2013 2:26:38 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: cuban leaf
"So, you are saying it was a ‘63 pontiac tempest?"

*snicker*

Mona Lisa helped those two" yewts" out, didn't she!

This trial could use a Mona Lisa!

1,721 posted on 07/02/2013 2:31:51 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: Sacajaweau
"Jenteal aka Dee Dee aka Diamond."

She said her nickname was "Diamond Eugene" and that Eugene was her mother's last name. Are there really many Haitians with the last name< Eugene?

And, what of the cursive letter? I think she said "Francine" (something like that) actually cursively wrote the letter but Janeal told her what to put in the letter. So where is "Francine"?

She signed the letter "Dee Dee". When asked, she said just say "Dee Dee".

Is there really a Dee Dee - another person who goes by Dee Dee?

The Dee Dee picture I saw looked nothing like Janeal. It would take 3, 4, 5 Dee Dee's to make up Janeal's size, I say with "all due respect."

1,722 posted on 07/02/2013 2:44:07 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: Sacajaweau
"What little brother?? or was this a little code between Jenteal and Tray?"

I was guessing the young man and young woman sitting next to Sabrina (sic?) might be Trayvon's sister and brother or steps but they were talking about a brother who is around six y.o.

Maybe he doesn't exist and it is code wording but maybe he does exist and parents don't want him disturbed by attending court and hearing what Trayvon did. I guess he could also be in school, too.

1,723 posted on 07/02/2013 2:49:47 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird

yes he did — but Bernie has nothing else.

Next he will be accused of a bad haircut


1,724 posted on 07/02/2013 3:37:16 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: hummingbird
Re the Eugene surname, don't have an idea how common a surname in Haiti, but... There is a Facebook page for a Marie Eugene, who coincidentally has a Rachel Jeantel in her friends list.

See you on the next trial day thread. :-)

1,725 posted on 07/02/2013 3:39:44 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: Cyber Liberty
"I don't know about riots, but "The Knockout Game" will become much more common. "

What is "The Knockout Game"?

1,726 posted on 07/02/2013 3:44:50 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird

Do you have a link to those pictures? Or do you remember where thou saw them?


1,727 posted on 07/02/2013 3:45:26 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: IChing

I mentioned it the way I did, beginning with the word IF, because it keeps coming up. For a more thorough analysis:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerman-case-the-five-principles-of-the-law-of-self-defense/


1,728 posted on 07/02/2013 3:49:51 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
"Seriously, what kind of game is this devolving into?"

A drinking game - every time Rachel said "axked" for "asked" you throw something back....or, in my case, I ate ice cream!

Seriously, it is really pitiful.

1,729 posted on 07/02/2013 3:53:29 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: snarkytart
"Hmmmm Florida has a different kind of white guy. lol"

Remember when they started calling Z a "white hispanic"?

Two birds...one stone!

1,730 posted on 07/02/2013 3:56:30 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: Cboldt

Is that the place he first saw him that made him suspicious? Or was it the clubhouse? Or did he decide to call NEN after he saw him in FT’s yard? If that is the case, and i don’t know it is, but TM standing in the yard of a GZ’s friend is proof that this wasn’t a race thing. If I drive by my friends house, at night and see not that person hanging out in the yard, I’d be suspicious too.ANYONE would.

However, my theory may be all goofed up, lol. I have most things re: the timeline straight, except the whole clubhouse thing.


1,731 posted on 07/02/2013 4:43:12 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: moehoward

I don’t see that as problem.

If you’re afraid or in fear sitting your car, then you don’t get out to CHASE THE GUY, but after he runs, you might get out to get an address for the 911. Also, if TM ran, then I would also be a little relieved thinking he wasn’t wanting a confrontation either.

Obviously, he didn’t want the confrontation while Z was on the phone, so how convenient that he waited until Z hung up the phone!


1,732 posted on 07/02/2013 5:02:02 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Cyber Liberty
"The Knockout Game" will become much more common.

Maybe the "got shot game" will too.

1,733 posted on 07/02/2013 5:17:57 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: DrewsMum
He saw Martin standing in Taffe's yard, looking at Taffe's house. That's when he decided to call NEN to have a police cruiser come and hopefully have the police confront Martin.

Zimmerman drove from there to the clubhouse, and parked. Martin walked the same direction, noticed Zimmerman, and Zimmerman noticed this. Martin then went on. Zimmerman pulled out of the parking place, and drove down the road keeping an eye on Martin. Martin disappeared, then reappeared. This is where Zimmerman reports to NEN operator that Martin was staring at him, hand in waistband, and this is where Zimmerman recounts at the police station that Martin (maybe) circled Zimmerman's car. None of this is claimed to be at a close distance, not within earshot.

Martin then takes off at a run, or a skip, and goes out of sight. Zimmerman gets out to see which way Martin disappeared. Some people refer to this as "following," be he can't see Martin, and doesn't know where he went, so it's pretty hard to literally "follow" Martin. The NEN operator asks Zimmerman if he is following (which he asks because he thinks, correctly, that Zimmerman is out of the car). Zimmerman says"yes," the NEN operators "we don't need you to that" and Zimmerman says "ok." Zimmerman says that at this point, he is about at the "T" sidewalk intersection.

Zimmerman stays on the phone with NEN for another couple minutes, about. He walks past the "T" (away from his truck), doesn't see Martin down the street, claims he walked over there to get a house address, then Zimmerman starts back toward his truck. He walks past the "T" intersection, and is confronted by Martin.

1,734 posted on 07/02/2013 5:24:36 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: onyx
I write with my left hand and do almost everything else with my right hand

Morning Ma'am,

You're obviously not "ambiphobic."

1,735 posted on 07/02/2013 5:31:01 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: hummingbird

It’s when roving gangs of feral black youts beat random individual white people unconscious. They say it’s great fun game!

Sometimes they accidentally beat them to death, but it can be argued all creepy-ass crackers deserve it. White privilege.


1,736 posted on 07/02/2013 5:41:50 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: RummyChick

“it’s possible Martin saw it”

Are you serious? He knows a creepy ass cracker rapist is following him WITH A GUN and he doesn’t RUN HOME as fast as possible, instead turns around and confronts him? Holy crap. I know thugs are stupid, but come on....he had no idea GZ had a gun or if he were stupid enough to have jumped him knowing that, he would have went for it way earlier in the fight when he first jumped him.

Come on girl, you need to take a step back because you are trying to prove hair brained theories with other hair brained theories. Gee wiz, even the lynch mobs out there haven’t come up with some of the crazy stuff you are saying...


1,737 posted on 07/02/2013 6:01:45 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Yeah that was also part of it, but only because dispatcher asked for an address and if GZ knew where he went. I don’t think GZ would of got out of the truck if not for dispatchers questions.


1,738 posted on 07/02/2013 6:12:13 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: don-o
Serino waffling.

Chickening-out, ya think?

1,739 posted on 07/02/2013 6:13:24 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Cboldt

THANK YOU!!


1,740 posted on 07/02/2013 6:19:36 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: advertising guy

I guess I set myself up for that didn’t I???

***note*** I have just noticed my horrible use of the word “their” that should have been “there”. I typed that on my phone and autocorrect hates me. I despise the misuse of their there and they’re....your you’re, too to two, etc. and I want to punch myself in the face when I am the guilty party...autocorrect or not...

ok, continue on with your clever 12 year old humor shenanigans, lol. I will try not to get in your cross hairs again.


1,741 posted on 07/02/2013 6:30:15 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Sacajaweau

Interesting theory.

Who initiated the phone call? Trayvon or Jeantel?

And at what time?


1,742 posted on 07/02/2013 7:57:37 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: UCANSEE2
"Good evening my FRiend. What a day at the trial, huh ?"

Good day to you. :-) I just now saw your posting. Yesterday was quite a day, and today is even more so. I was wondering why the prosecutors introduced the Hannity interview and then nothing was said. Now it is made clear. I sure hope the defense can find a ruling that won't allow them to bring up Zimmerman's college courses unless they can prove he was actually in the class when Hold Your Ground Law was discussed.

1,743 posted on 07/02/2013 1:13:33 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

OK LaVerne!


1,744 posted on 07/02/2013 2:00:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Nervous Tick

I see, you are Jeffie’s alter-ego.


1,745 posted on 07/02/2013 2:02:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DrewsMum

Smart, isn’t he!


1,746 posted on 07/02/2013 2:06:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: snarkytart
I’m really being pissing

Enough of this "p!$$!ng"!

1,747 posted on 07/02/2013 2:11:16 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: House Atreides; BuckeyeTexan
Knock it off folks—you’re making me hungry.

How about a shrimp omelet, or a nice plate of catfish and grits with sweet potato fries...maybe a gator basket with onion rings and a bowl of crawdad gumbo with collard-green spring rolls?

1,748 posted on 07/02/2013 2:20:07 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: ModelBreaker
Have an upholstered gun

You mean like velour or naugahyde?

1,749 posted on 07/02/2013 2:46:25 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

haha I meant pissy.


1,750 posted on 07/02/2013 3:06:26 PM PDT by snarkytart
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