Posted on 07/06/2013 7:07:24 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
"Blood running in the streets. Mobs of rioters and demonstrators threatening banks and legislatures. Looting of shop and home. Strikes and unemployment. Trade and distribution paralyzed. Shortages of food. Bankruptcies everywhere. Court dockets overloaded. Kidnappings for heavy ransom. Sexual perversion, drunkenness, lawlessness rampant. The wheels of government are clogged, and we are descending into the vale of confusion and darkness. No day was ever more clouded than the present. We are fast verging on anarchy and confusion. (George Washington in a 1786 letter to James Madison, describing the effects of fiat paper money inflation then ravaging America in the pre Constitutional period.)
"The annihilation (of the paper money) was so complete that barber shops were papered in jest with the bills; and sailors, on returning from cruises, being paid off in bundles of this worthless money, had suits made of it, and with characteristic lightheartedness, turned their loss into frolic by parading through the streets in decayed finery which in its better days had passed for thousands of dollars." (Contemporary writer, Breck, 1786)
"Paper money polluted the equity of our laws, turned them into engines of oppression, corrupted the justice of our public administration, destroyed the fortunes of thousands who had confidence in it, enervated the trade and husbandry, and the manufactures of our country, and went far to destroy the morality of our people." (Peletiah Webster, 1786)
"When the servants of the people are paid in something other than that which the people themselves produce, the roles of master and servant will be reversed." Thomas Jefferson writing in opposition to the early effort by "Friends of Paper Money" to foist an unbacked, fiat money system upon the people of the United States.
If you don't fully understand those warnings, let me know and I'll send along a full explanation.
> “Romney lost because he didnt get enough votes to win.”
CORRECT.
> “Romney lost because the conservative virtues the traditional American virtues of liberty, hard work, free enterprise, private initiative and aspirations to moral greatness no longer inspire or animate a majority of the electorate.”
WRONG.
Post-Election statistical surveys pinpointed by regional demographics that it was the old ‘Perot Bloc’, the blue collar mostly white working class that stayed home, rejecting Romney as they did G.W.H. Bush #41 years ago.
A sobering read. I still hold out hope that there may yet be more of us than there are of them..and that younger people are starting to grasp the magnitude of the problem and continue the fight. I’m not ready to have the epitaph written just yet. But we have some extremely tough fights on our hands to keep it from happening.
Yes, Romney lost because of the “free stuff”. But he also lost because the GOP establishment prefers to keeping control of the party over actually winning elections. Therefore, viable conservative candidates were carpet bombed into oblivion if they entered the race or simply intimidated out of running in the first place.
The end result, more conservatives stayed home on election day 2012 than the conservatives who stayed home on election day in 2008 because they couldn’t stomach McCain. And, that is exactly how the GOP establishment likes it. Allow the Tea Party and the grass roots to take over and the entire party establishment loses their power/control base. That’s FAR more important than things like freedom, the free market and self determination.
In each of the loosing elections I've heard the following phrase "I'll reach across the aisle" from the Republican candidates. When I hear that, I think of the word "Milquetoast", "RINO" and see a stealth Liberal/Progressive in Republicans Clothing.
No Romney lost, not because the Democrats bought the election (and they did buy a lot of votes), but because Romney's past caught up with him (RomneyCare and Gay Marriage). And the fact that these two belied his "conservative" message.
I see no mention of the widespread, blatant fraud carried out in key swing states.
Sounds like a reflection / projection of the majority of the electorate. (incompetent, apathetic, and irresponsible). We get the government we deserve.
What voter fraud ?
Says Eric Holder
“Romney lost because the conservative virtues the traditional American virtues of liberty, hard work, free enterprise, private initiative and aspirations to moral greatness no longer inspire or animate a majority of the electorate”
wrong.
The electorate is starving for a leader who holds and champions these values
Romney lost because he was not articulate and inspiring about those principles.
He may be a good man and a good able leader, BUUUT
with rare exceptions, Mitt’s public persona is that of an insipid elitist milktoast from a strange secretive quirky religious cult who had no fire in the belly to lead this nation and who stayed constantly on defense
Mittens kept his mouth shut about Barry Benghazi when he had the chance to stand up for those dead souls.
NO RINO will be able to inspire with these values because they don’t hold them except as campaign slogans.
LOL... democrats are better at using these values as hooks and they don’t even believe in them
Obama also knows that the electorate has changed that whites will soon be a minority in America (theyre already a minority in California) and that the new immigrants to the US are primarily from the Third World and do not share the traditional American values that attracted immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is a different world, and a different America. Obama is part of that different America, knows it, and knows how to tap into it. That is why he won.
As long as this country continues to bring in 1.2 million legal immigrants a year, 87% of whom are minorities as classified by the USG, it will continue to descend into a third world country and tribal politics.
Yup. I have had my tag line up since the election. While the GOP has gained in the House, Governorships, and state legislatures, the inability to win a majority of the Presidential vote since 92 -except for 2004- is distressing. I suppose we could take some heart that the GOP would probably control the Senate if it weren’t for some terrible candidates, but ....does anyone really trust the GOP after the Rubio fiasco?
Republicans lost because they led the way in exporting our economy of jobs and factories to the rest of the world. Abandoned by the international interest corporations in search of world wide profits, our citizens turned to government. Those that rely on government vote for Democrats. Restoring American jobs will restore the voters who elected Reagan to vote Republican again. Success breeds Republican voters, unemployment breeds Democrats. Washington Republicans thought that by screwing Obama they would screw Democrats, instead they screwed themselves.
Romney lost because of massive voter fraud and the fact that the moochers, looters and inner city tribal parasites outnumber the producers. This country has gone from land of the free and home of the brave to land of the free stuff and home of the depraved. You are living in a dream world if you think otherwise. You would be better served spending your time and resources preparing for the horror that is coming.
Dick, your comments to this article included:
“Blood running in the streets. Mobs of rioters and demonstrators threatening banks and legislatures. Looting of shop and home. Strikes and unemployment. Trade and distribution paralyzed. Shortages of food. Bankruptcies everywhere. Court dockets overloaded. Kidnappings for heavy ransom. Sexual perversion, drunkenness, lawlessness rampant. The wheels of government are clogged, and we are descending into the vale of confusion and darkness...”(George Washington in a 1786 letter to James Madison)
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That Washington quote is inaccurate, at least to that reference.
That text does not appear anywhere in the letter that you cite;
and I am unable to find it anywhere properly attributed to George Washington.
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http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/documents/constitution/1784/madison2.html
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I do see that some parts of of your attribution are there:
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Mount Vernon 5th Novr 1786.
“My dear Sir,...”
“...No Morn ever dawned more favorable than ours did
and no day was ever more clouded than the present!
Wisdom, & good examples are necessary at this time
to rescue the political machine from the impending storm.
Virginia has now an opportunity to set the latter,
and has enough of the former, I hope, to take the lead
in promoting this great & arduous work...”
“...Without some alteration in our political creed,
the superstructure we have been seven years raising
at the expense of much blood and treasure, must fall.
We are fast verging to anarchy & confusion!
A letter which I have just received from Genl Knox,
who had just returned from Massachusetts is replete
with melancholy information of the temper & designs
of a considerable part of that people...”
“...Thirteen Sovereignties pulling against each other,
and all tugging at the fderal head,
will soon bring ruin on the whole;
whereas a liberal, and energetic Constitution,
well guarded & closely watched,
to prevent encroachments,
might restore us to that degree of respectability & consequence,
to which we had a fair claim...”
“...With sentiments of the sincerest esteem & regard
I am—Dear Sir Yr Most Obedt & Affecte Hble Servt
Go. Washington...”
Yes aprox 6 million working class whites sat home. 2016 is unlikely to be different. But by then I imagine we will be in total economic collapse or CW11 so it won’t matter.
OK, we all know what the problems are. The question is, “Can it be fixed?” If so, how?
It’s too easy to draw such conclusions offered by Rabbi Pruzansky in Patriot Thoughts and amplified by yourself in comments. Particularly if your in a position to deal with the artificial increasing costs of everything which have been created by socialist policies and its resultant regulations which run across the board. Unfortunately those conclusions are also being drawn by those in control of the apparatus of the Republican party who are in search of the most perfect “demographic”.
And that “perfect demograpic” is showing the way out of dependence on the system which created it. Not condemming those forced to rely on it
It doesn’t seem to dawn on advocates of these positions as costs contunue to increase that they are the result of endless edicts and thousands of pages of endless regulations restricting resources which is comming close to even engulfing those taking that position. But they have already engulfed those on limited incomes to the extent what sub assistance the maker of those increases offers namely the government are taken because of necessity.
In socialism it is the government and those who are in control of it but the powers that be in opposition can’t and didn’t even mention that word during the 2012 campaign and refuses to do so now.
I was never a Romney fan, but I voted for him and by the end of the campaign thought he ran it excellently. America as was founded is over, time for the new patriots to do what it takes to survive. Starve the beast whenever possible, overwhelm it when possible. We are a captured operation.
The status quo was the represented by both major parties on the ballot.
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