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To: dragnet2
"...it appears the tail just fell off. Wits now saying this thing started to cartwheel upon landing, tearing a wing off then the tail."

While a tail strike is most likely scenario, I suppose the tail could have broken off as the result of a very hard landing.

Both wings largely intact, so cartwheeling is NOT indicated.

139 posted on 07/06/2013 12:43:26 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost

Yeah I saw that, but right wing tip has substantial damage from about 7 feet to tip.


147 posted on 07/06/2013 12:46:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: diogenes ghost

Mr GG2 a pilot and former Boeing line chief says the pilot made hard landing too soon. He hit the embankment and took the landing gear off then the tail. It didn’t go very far after it hit so he says the guy probably didn’t dial in his barometric pressure right so he landed way too soon. He was probably looking at the dials and not the ground. The radar should have been overiding it but who knows.


155 posted on 07/06/2013 12:47:52 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: diogenes ghost

I’m sure that when witnesses talk about “wings” coming off they are actually referring to the right and left horizontal stabs and maybe the rudder. Only the right wingtip seems to have been severely damaged on the main wing.

If there was a mid-air explosion in the tail area — even one second before touch down — this is a really big deal.

It is unlikely the baggage compartment extends that far back. The 777 has no tail engine with associated fuel lines or even an APU in that location (I don’t think).

So what caused the explosion? I hope it wasn’t a SAM!


158 posted on 07/06/2013 12:48:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: diogenes ghost

Video on fox shows small amount of debris in the water at the very front of the runway. Looks like a trail leading from the water up the runway. Lots of very small debris from water leading down the runway to the remains of the tail.

They are saying witnesses reporting the tail fell off before it landed. I’m wondering if it hit the runway, bounced and then the tail fell off.


176 posted on 07/06/2013 12:53:33 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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