Posted on 07/06/2013 2:17:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog
(CNN) - An Asiana Airlines' Boeing 777 crashed and burned Saturday while landing at San Francisco International Airport, sending up a large plume of dark smoke from the aircraft, which lost its tail and much of its roof.
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Unlikely that windshear was present. Weather was excellent today from all reports.
In that photo posted on Twitter it would seem that passengers had time to take their carry-on off the plan. Apparently people were not so worried at all...
There was a 777 crash in England caused by fuel starvation a few years ago — caused.the airplane to land short by nearly a mile. Only one engine rolling back could cause this if the timing was right — each engine is 50 percent of the available power.
Right... for transport from tarmac. Why CNN would say ONE person taken by Coast Guard is odd... if they’re taking all the injured to the hospitals.
Something to consider. It is possible to hack an acft doing an autoland using an I phone. There was an article on this not too long ago. The recovery is to hand fly the acft which disconnects the autopilot. More than likely the crew just flew it into the ground if there was no outside interference, mechanical issues, etc.. Just sayin’.
New shows debris immediately on land, I.E. on the sea wall.
So he hit the wall he was WAY too low. Should be 100 ft or more ‘up’ at that earliest section of the runway.
Coast Guard is there, person was in extremis and needed immediate transport, couldn’t wait for a ground ambulance. Just guessing.
On another thread someone said the flight was a half hour late. Could they have been out of fuel at the end of approach?
The Sydney Morning Herald is reporting 2 dead.It’s a subscription site so that’s all I can get.
Similar circumstances to this previous 777 crash. Extended time overwater at high altitude cools the fuel to very low temperatures, possibly exacerbating fuel metering issues.
On final the engines have to spool up to counter drag from final flaps and landing gear — making short final the most likely time for a fuel metering restriction issue to manifest itself.
“A fuel-flow restriction at the fuel/oil heat exchanger (FOHE) on the right engine and “most likely” on the left-hand FOHE resulted in the January 2008 crash of a 777 on approach to London Heathrow, according to the UK Department for Transport Aircraft Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) final report on the accident. Following a 10.5-hour flight from Beijing, the 777 (flying as British Airways Flight 38) lost power on its final approach to Heathrow, as both engines suffered an uncommanded “rollback” (or power reduction) at 720 feet and the airliner subsequently made a forced landing about 1,100 feet short of the runway and just inside the airport boundary. Ice in the fuel system had restricted fuel flow to the Rolls-Royce Trent 800 engines, according to investigators. All passengers survived....”
Sounds very much like the Lion Air crash at Ngurah Rai in Bali a couple months back. But that was a 737-800, much smaller than the 777, but the circumstances of the crash were similar, the pilot coming in over water and failing to maintain altitude.
Based on the pictures that I’ve seen posted, I find it very difficult to believe that the plane actually ‘cartwheeled’.
Water in the fuel froze into a slush and caused lack of engine power...this caused a similar 777 crash in the UK several years ago.
No, the controversy was about hacking the FMS through a vulnerable ACARS, which could result in a flight plan change (and even then not a direct change to the operating flight plan). It was not about directly hacking an autopilot.
I don’t believe it when those road signs say my speed is “radar controlled” either!
I don’t know why any FReeper would be quoting the Commie News Network. I get all my news from FOX.
Asiana ranks as the second best airline in the world, next to Qatar, which I use between Philippines and Europe.
There is no American carrier even in the top 20...sad
I'm flying in there tomorrow afternoon.
From Oakland.
Should get a good look at the mess at SFO five minutes after take-off.
How does a “low approach” happen? You would think that with today’s modern technology that every square inch of every major airport in the U.S. would be GPS’ed and in the computer of every plane, no? Aren’t there sensors that would alert the pilot he was too low?
Well, bless your heart.
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