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Airplane!
Townhall.com ^ | July 8, 2013 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 07/08/2013 7:07:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

OK … I’ll admit it. I did get a little testy on Twitter (@Talkmaster) Saturday afternoon while watching coverage of the crash landing of that Asiana 777 in San Francisco. There’s an explanation.

My first hint at a problem at SFO was a video a follower sent me of the smoke from the burning aircraft. I immediately went to the usual sites on the Internet and TV to see what was going on. Nothing. Nobody had a clue. Twitter beat out the big boys.

Eventually, though, the coverage started to break on CNN and Fox News. I chose Fox. This was the only way I could be assured that Piers Morgan wasn’t going to be part of the coverage. Right off the bat it became clear that Fox was relying on reports from people who barely new the difference between a DC7 and a 777. The errors and impossibilities in the reporting were laughable, so I switched to CNN. Not much better there … and loyalties are loyalties … so it was back to Fox.

We need Fox News. Oh, I know Fox drives the proggies nuts. They’re so used to having a lock on the principal news outlets that they can scarcely believe there are people out there reporting from a different perspective. Without Fox News we never would have known of Obama’s failed gun running program Fast & Furious. Fox News kept us in the loop on Benghazi. While other networks, broadcast and cable, were telling us the story on the IRS scandal was pretty much over, Fox was still revealing new angles; including the fact that the orders to drop the IRS hammer on conservative organizations came from the Obama junta.

I’m persona non grata on Fox these days. Maybe it was that sports coat I wore on Cavuto. Perhaps they think I was the one who goaded Beckel into dropping that F-bomb. Maybe they didn’t appreciate me telling folks that although Shep Smith is an incredible anchor, he really is quite a jerk in person. Who knows? I’m retired, and I’m fine with it. The makeup made my face break out anyway. But I still watch Fox News (right up until Hubcap O’Reilly at 8:00) and I revel in the way they clobber CNN and annihilate MSNBC in the ratings.

So here’s the problem. Fox News is attacked constantly by the left because they dare to report what the leftist media won’t. To repel these attacks, Fox News has to work harder than most to retain its reputation for accuracy in news reporting. People who hear absurdities solemnly presented in the coverage of a major aviation story are very likely to lose confidence in the political side of Fox reporting as well.

Just what mistakes did various Fox reporters make this weekend? Well here’s a few:

Part of my angst here is surely due to my own personal interest in aviation. I studied aerospace engineering. I’ve been a pilot for about 35 years. I’ve heard liberals like Obama demonize the evil “rich” people who own and fly their own private aircraft, even though the average value of a single-engine piston airplane flying today is less than the cost of a new bass rig.

Aviation and the flying public are poorly served by people who know nothing about the subject engaging in wild and mindless speculation when an incident happens. Fox, CNN and the rest of the broadcast media can, and should, do better.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airplane; crash; foxnews; sanfrancisco
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To: John O
This is truly sad. Her only mistake was marrying him in the first place.

Not exactly. She married him with the intent of becoming FLOTUS.

41 posted on 07/08/2013 8:52:07 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Vendome

I meant to write it was SHE that suffered the seizure.


42 posted on 07/08/2013 8:53:00 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Kaslin

Actually, I was looking for news about the Egyptian situation not the plane crash. Egypt was barely mentioned on the networks.


43 posted on 07/08/2013 9:03:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Kaslin
What I'm saying is, don't be too critical of the training process which has worked well for decades.

Every pilot, at some time or another is a "virgin" on a particular aircraft or at a particular airport. The only way to get experience is by doing it. And the only way to do that is by flying as a trainee on many flights. I'm not certain what the requirements are to be "rated" on a 777, but I am certain that a lot of "trainee" hours of flying it are required, in addition to lots of hours on a simulator.

44 posted on 07/08/2013 9:14:32 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

My post on another thread.


45 posted on 07/08/2013 9:40:58 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Robe

Uhn huh...

I almost thought your nom de jour was rube.... /s

LOL

Just teasing...


46 posted on 07/08/2013 9:51:43 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kaslin

From what I have read, the low-time pilot (in a 777, but had lots of other expeirience) WAS the captain.

This approach should have been a piece of cake. But he made a mistake, and i believe due to cultural issues the first officer didn’t correct him until it was too late.


47 posted on 07/08/2013 9:52:45 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking

Yeah but not in a 777. He had only 43 hours training hours in it and had only flown it for 9 hours. I believe the mistake was made by all, not just him


48 posted on 07/08/2013 9:59:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, that is the point I was making.

If the first officer is afraid to correct the captain, things like this happen.

This actually happened in another accident involving a South Korean airline.


49 posted on 07/08/2013 10:19:01 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Vendome

Been called worse ...:0


50 posted on 07/08/2013 10:32:53 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Kaslin

That’s just the problem with TV news when something big is happening, especially if it’s the weekend. You’ve got people that aren’t experts in the field, pictures being provided largely at random, and air that is simply not allowed to be dead; add B team producers, directors and talkers and a lot of dumb things get said in rapid succession. That’s why when big things start happening I wait until written stuff starts showing up on the web, written articles don’t have so much pressure to talk at all times, and have the leisure to get their facts straight. Even then they get things wrong, but it’s not the rapid succession of stupid you get on TV.


51 posted on 07/08/2013 10:39:38 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Because it happened here.


52 posted on 07/08/2013 10:40:15 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: discostu
Because it happened here.

More people killed as a result of the Canadian train crash, but it is hardly mentioned.

53 posted on 07/08/2013 10:53:43 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

Because it wasn’t here. Americans have a long history of not being terribly interested in foreign news, and the media feeds that by not reporting it unless nothing else is happening. And when they do report it they’re always trying to bring it here conceptually, you’ll get things like “40 dead including 3 Americans” to try to make it “American” news. It’s not a good habit, but remember they’re actual job is to sell commercials, not to inform, so they need to feed us “news” we find interesting otherwise we change the channel.


54 posted on 07/08/2013 11:00:22 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: Kaslin
Right off the bat it became clear that Fox was relying on reports from people who barely new the difference between a DC7 and a 777.

First rule of nitpicking ... ;-)

55 posted on 07/08/2013 11:57:34 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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