Posted on 07/28/2013 6:47:52 PM PDT by TexGrill
Thanks for your comment. I’ll be honest I deserve some blame for throwing sparks into the fire. However, I can’t promise I’ll refrain from future attacks, but I’m not here to make enemies whether you believe it or not. If things get a little heated, let’s use the code words, “time to stand down,” and let both sides attempt to halt. This does not mean surrender, this does not mean retreat, and it does not mean I agree with you. It just means “let’s not make it personal.” Free Republic is a good news Website, and this week, I will contact a Chinese bank to see if I can bankwire a donation to FreeRepublic, so FReepers please advise me how on bankwire info. After that, I will figure out how to send a donation to the Tom Pauken for Texas Governor camppaign too.
Abbot has been kicking Washington’s butt for years. It only makes the news when he loses. He didn’t actually lose on the merits in this case. The court ducked the issue by denying standing. This is a growing trend in the courts to prevent “We the people” from challenging government over reach.
If not for the law suits, lawn companies would not be allowed to run lawnmowers after noon in Houston, highway speeds would be mandated at 55 mph maximum, the gas and oil industry in Texas would be severely inhibited, state medicaid costs would be 25 - 50% higher, gun rights would be restricted and more. Had Texas not prevailed in the related disputes it would have cost the states residents and business billions. Abbot’s record is not just the court decisions that make the news. It includes all of the cases settled before making it to court.
I was working in the party when Cornyn was Texas Attorney General and when Abbott became Attorney General. Abbott doesn't back down or give up when he is defending Texas.
Those many years ago, before I knew him, I think he was in college, he was jogging and as he was passing a tree, the tree fell on him and he's been in a wheelchair since then. Most people would give up after that, but not him. His tenacity to stay the course then, is the same tenacity he has now.
It takes a special man to rise above the wheelchair underneath him. We have Free Republic Jim Robinson to also prove this. He and Abbott are two of a kind and I say that seriously. Both men are tough as nails and won't give up fighting for their conservative beliefs. Both are prolife, pro-gun, small government, and individual freedoms, men.
Pauken was a poor party chairman, quit before his second term was over (thank goodness), ran for office three times, twice for congress and once for Attorney General (1998)and lost every time. To compare him with Abbott, is ridiculous.
If I was the Governor of Texas, I would tell them to kiss my ass.
That may be true of his most recent posts, but did you read from the top of the thread? The guy laid in attack after attack after scurrilous attack on the character and good name of Texas AG, Greg Abbott.
It's offensive. The guy is promoting his favored candidate by hurling slime and ad hominems at someone who most Texas Freepers greatly admire. It's like a stranger walked in our house and spit on the portrait of a beloved family member. Yeah -- we're gonna react to that.
I don't have a problem with the fact that the guy lives in China, while calling himself 'Tex', but I do find it mighty suspicious that his only interest in Texas seems to be this one political race.
Yes, we were all newbies once, but most of us came into this forum with a modicum of respect for the existing community. We didn't show up one day and immediately begin trashing a public servant who was greatly admired by most of the members. Most of us had just a little more tact than that when we were new here.
I'm sure that's the same thread where I first ran into TexGrill. I remember you responding to his nasty attacks as well. I cautioned him then about his outlandish trash talk, and posited that he was a paid campaign operative. He certainly was acting like one.
He immediately backed off and got all light-hearted and silly on me.
He just pulled the very same thing on this thread, and now he looks like the poor new guy getting stomped on by the regulars. Reminds me of a trick my little brother used to pull on me when we were kids.
All I can say is, I hope TexGrill pulls back on the ugly attacks. There's no need for that in the discussions here.
As you say, the above is what I wrote. You just wrote to me: “I'm sure that's the same thread where I first ran into TexGrill. I remember you responding to his nasty attacks as well. I cautioned him then about his outlandish trash talk, and posited that he was a paid campaign operative. He certainly was acting like one.”
His one purpose is to trash Abbott and use Pauken’s attacks on Abbott. TexGrill is no Freeper. He has no saving grace. I have never questioned Admin Moderators decisions but being nice to a cutthroat disgusting newbie is wrong. He's a troll for Paukin, to lie about Abbott, and that's the only reason he's here. He's saying Abbott and Carl Rove are best buds, intimating Abbott gets his marching orders from Rove, and that's a lie. Paukin is also trying to attach the two.
Paukin wants a bunch of debates and Abbott refuses - says he will take his positions to the public and let them decide. Good for Abbott - I wouldn't debate Paukin, either. Any Republican lawyer can sign up to run for Attorney General, but that doesn't mean another candidate has to debate any other candidates. Why waste time on Paukin? He can take his message to the public, too. Travel Texas, speak to the people. Neither of these men have been governor, so let them speak individually to the people.
Whoever wins the primary of each party, will likely debate each other - that is Democrat vs. Republican and how it should be.
I agree with you 100%, Marcella.
As I explained to TexGrill when he first showed up, we long-term Freepers have seen his modus operandi before, and recognize it instantly. It's not easy to pull the wool over our eyes. Especially when someone is being as overt and nasty in their comments as TexGrill has.
As I stated previously, no one here has any objection to someone rooting for their chosen candidate in any Republican race. But there's a large difference between singing your guy's praises, and shamelessly trashing his opponent to a group of people who more than likely are his supporters. It reeks of underhanded campaign operations.
Just say “time to stand down” and I will pull back, but I expect the same from my opponents.
After standing down on Abbott for a few hours, I spent time on reflection. I even reviewed some video footage of Abbott to check if my assesssment of him was overblown. Well, some folks have gaydar, but I got RINOdar and after seeing his appearance on WFAA and comparing it to Pauken’s interview I see my suspicions are well-founded:
http://www.wfaa.com/video?id=216314121&sec=552937
They were asking him softball questions, his answers were too scrripted, I caught him it in some obvious lies, such as “I’m the only candidate with a hispanic wife,” “no other Republican oppossed the Austin establishment such as myself,” and “I will debate ...” He looked so wishy-washy and couldn’t even endorse Ted Cruz over Rick Perry for Prez. He dodged details on speciic questions. It was lame, no wonder he won’t debate Pauken.
Perhaps I’m a bit of a trash talker. Without identifying myself, I had Democrats in Dallas say the same as you when I wrote for a local blog. It reminds me of a story, One of my favorite nemesis was Dallas County Commissioner John Wiley Price, a Democrat (Dallas -version of Al Sharpton). When it comes to mean and corrupt politicians, JWP rules the roost in Big D. After every Commissioners’s Court meeting on Tuesday I had to interview him and when I approach, JWP would often say, “uh-oh here comes the pit bull.” One time I met one of his poltical aides and I asked him what his job duties were, he said, “read your blog, prepare my boss for your weekly interviews and write fundraising letters to explain that John Wiley Price is a victim of the GOP media attack machine.” Now that I think about it, that’s a compliment. To be honest, JWP was one of the few politicos who had my knees shaking when interviewing him. He can be intimidating. Just imagine Al Sharpton on steroids and that’s JWP. But I said to myself, if I want to call myself tough it’s my job to keep asking him the hard questions.
Thanks for the ping!
No one's asking you to stand down. That's not what the disagreement here is about.
You're perfectly welcome to sing the praises of your chosen candidate, but when you come in here and start trash mouthing his opponent, who just so happens to be greatly admired and respected by most Texas Freepers, you're going to be pegged for a foul mouthed disruptor or worse.
Ok, but it’s a Texas GOP gubernatorial primary, not a love fest for the ‘Anointed One.’ After the primary is over and if Abbott wins, you can expect me to post a congratulations to him on Free Republic. However when I grew up in Texas, I always loved watching the primary fights. Democrats and Republicans would fight like cats and dogs and after the results were tallied, Democrats and Republicans would unite behind their nominee. It was gentlemanly for a losing candidate to say, “despite the fact that I called my opponent a slithering snake and diabolical goon two days ago, I’m happy to endorse his candidacy, since he won the Party’s nomination.”
You're still not reading me. It's the way in which you showed up and immediately set about bad mouthing the opposition candidate, while failing to say much of anything about your guy. It's bad form for a newcomer, and guaranteed to put you on lots of Texas Freepers' bad side.
Those of us who've been here for some years, have seen that modus operandi too many times to count. Most often, it's eventually discovered that the newbie is a paid agent of some political campaign, and is using Free Republic to sow seeds of doubt about the Freeper community's favored candidate.
Either you really are a paid agent, or you badly bungled your introduction to the group. Either way, your behavior on the Texas gubernatorial threads fits the profile.
Go ahead and root for Pauken. No one's going to stop you. You can even post derogatory information about Abbott if you can find any, and as long as you do it for informational purposes alone.
It's the flaming negative attacks on Abbott that are over the top. Stick to the facts and you'll probably have few problems with anyone here.
Perhaps? Go back and read what you've posted about Greg Abbott here. Those posts could have been lifted from the pages of Democrat Underground.
I get that you don't like Abbott, and that Pauken is your guy. Took awhile, but we did finally establish that. If you want to promote your guy, go right ahead, but quit trashing Abbott like he's Barack Obama.
I know who the moron is.
For the record, you probably shouldn't brag about crucifying him on your blog if you're not prepared to reveal your identity. You get no props for that.
As I recall, I posted a thread that simply praised Pauken a the beginning. And somebody said Pauken is a “disaster and a destroyer.” I don’t recall who, but it sounded like “Game On” Texas-style to me. Meanwhile, I wanted to check into Abbott’s political history last evening, and to my surprise, he really has enjoyed an “Annointed One” status in the Texas GOP. He’s never faced a difficult GOP fight in any of his prior GOP primaries. He was handed easy election bids through former President George W. Bush and Karl Rove. Then I checked out his interview on WFAA Channel 8 News in Dallas and even I was stunned by his poor performance. I was like wow, he gets a powder puff interview by 2 TV reporters and he still flounders. Here’s the link:
http://www.wfaa.com/news/politics/Inside-Texas-Politics-721-216314121.html
He avoided giving details of his plans as governor. He dodged questions. His answers were too scripted and it looked like the reporters gave him the questions beforehand. He looked wishy washy and I’m not sure if he could really handle a tough interview or press conference. I must wait to pass judgement on that one. I have to see him engage in a real serious debate or see how he handles a reporter, who tries to put some pressure on him.
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