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Urban Sprawl Is Literally Stranding the Poor (Paul Krugman)
Newser ^ | 07/28/2013 | Kevin Spak

Posted on 07/29/2013 11:51:33 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: GOPJ

The FEDs have taken away the poor’s ability to think in terms outside the system they are gaming... sad really.


61 posted on 07/29/2013 12:27:24 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Pontiac
Worth reposting in large font....

 

Social mobility is low in both cities—meaning the poor are staying poor. Why?

Because social welfare programs are keeping the poor anchored to the government teat.

Exactly where the Progressives want them.

The poor have no reason to go where the jobs are they can stay in the neighborhoods where they grew up with their friends and the government will supply everything they need.

And the government also makes sure that there is a grave price to pay for leaving the plantation. If they get a job that does not pay enough to supply all of their needs but pays just a little too much they loose all of the benefits that they are currently getting.

These people are not total idiots. They will stay where they are and keep collecting their welfare checks and keep voting Democrat.


62 posted on 07/29/2013 12:27:38 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

...is Paul Krugman going to move to the hood?


63 posted on 07/29/2013 12:28:03 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
This professional Keynesian quack can always be expected to offer absurd rationalizations for taking away the value of our money, as well as the most basic of our liberties, in order to pursue a rationally indefensible, Leftwing social agenda.

The whole early history of European settlement in North America gives the lie to this ridiculous theory. See America Grounded On Experience & Reason.

Those who will not take up the argument on behalf of our traditional values, on behalf of our way of life; those who seek to appease the Paul Krugmans, as those who give lip service to the claimed grievances of other Leftist spokesmen; are all undermining the future of America in ways that are rapidly becoming irretrievable. There can be no moral justification for such appeasement of evil.

William Flax

64 posted on 07/29/2013 12:28:23 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Tzimisce

Nahhh. Kruggie wants the hood to move to YOU.


65 posted on 07/29/2013 12:28:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Tzimisce

He’d last about 30 minutes.


66 posted on 07/29/2013 12:29:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd
So, where does Mr. Krugman live?

Paul Krugman's House Photos

67 posted on 07/29/2013 12:30:38 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracker)
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To: TexasCajun

Thank you.....I was wondering that myself....and I got the answer I was expecting.


68 posted on 07/29/2013 12:31:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd

So lets round up all the people and make them live in government communes just like UN Agenda 21 wants us to.


69 posted on 07/29/2013 12:32:26 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: dfwgator; Eva

It’s also happening here in Toronto; inner-city homes are worth a fortune while most of the poor are in the fringes to the northwest & northeast.


70 posted on 07/29/2013 12:33:48 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: mountainlion

They should ask themselves, does putting a rotten apple in a barrel with good ones make it a good apple, or turn the rest bad.


71 posted on 07/29/2013 12:34:26 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: dfwgator; Eva

It’s also happening here in Toronto; inner-city homes are worth a fortune while most of the poor are in the fringes to the northwest & northeast.


72 posted on 07/29/2013 12:35:12 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: Billthedrill

“you’ll have to force the wealthy to live in them at gunpoint, but hey, it’s for the Greater Good.”

Just as they must be willing to shoot me dead in order to make me buy their Obamacare policy. They will kill me for my health!


73 posted on 07/29/2013 12:35:13 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It's more like "suburban sprawl."

Another factor regarding Detroit vs. Atlanta "sprawl" is North vs. South.

Much of the urban centers in the northeast date back to the settling of the nation, where roads still follow colonial township boundaries, are narrow and windy, and follow the contours of the Appalachian foothills.

In the south and southwest, the land is more flat, and the settling is newer, so the cities had the advantage of planning their designs and could build anywhere.

-PJ

74 posted on 07/29/2013 12:35:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: CSM

They would like nothing more than to use the power of the state to murder their ideological opponents.


75 posted on 07/29/2013 12:36:09 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
And I suppose that transit systems that have to spend 70% or more of their budget on retired union members who sit home on their arses has NOTHING to do with that, eh, Kruggy?

You are correct, and not only that but the free flow of poor people is limited by regulations that prevent low cost bus and taxi services from entering the market. There is no reason that poor people with jobs in suburbia couldn't ride in a van owned by another person looking to earn some money. In fact it could be a pretty good business. If you watch carefully in certain areas you will notice, for example, vans carrying Asian workers from the city to the Asian restaurants in the suburbs.

Forty years ago in Philadelphia old re-purposed school buses came to pick up inner city residents who wanted to work on the farms in New Jersey. I'll bet regulations today would make that kind of transport impractical or even illegal.

Krugman and his liberal allies do everything they can to stomp out businesses like that which actually help low income people improve their circumstances. And then they complain about the results of their efforts.

76 posted on 07/29/2013 12:36:30 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Pontiac

“Because social welfare programs are keeping the poor anchored to the government teat.”

It all comes down to bad choices. Girls of 13 are having out of wedlock babies with older teens and young adults. These young girls are not mature enough to raise the child. The burden of childrearing almost certainly means they will not get an education providing them even the rudimentary reading, writing, and math skills required for low skill work.

Many young boys and girls who choose not to fall into the pregnancy trap fall into the racial trap and buy into the hip hop urban culture theme that excelling in school is “white”. As a result they fail to apply themselves in school and end up without the rudimentary skills required to prosper in the workplace.

Without even rudimentary skills, the potential of obtaining more than an extremely low paying low skill job is zero. Dependence on government then becomes either a conscious choice or the default choice. Without skills there is no social mobility.


77 posted on 07/29/2013 12:39:35 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Thanks for the compliment.

But I should have said it this way.

These people are not total idiots. They will stay where they are and keep collecting their welfare checks, keep breeding more of their kind (because children tend to learn their work ethic from their parents) and keep voting Democrat.

78 posted on 07/29/2013 12:39:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: CSM
They will kill me for my health!

Ah, but you'll be a better man for it! A few years into 0bamacare and it will be "Good morning, Mr. Drill, this is the surgeon who will be performing your quadruple bypass surgery. Say to Doctor Abdul "Scissorhands" Mengele. He did his residency online."

79 posted on 07/29/2013 12:40:07 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: GraceG
Contemporary Black Culture was killed by LBJ....

It actually started long before; certainly the corruption was in high gear with FDR.

1. The Welfare system began to undermine moral values & self-respect with the ADC program in the 1930s.

2. With the increasing agitation for Federal solutions to all social problems, as the years rolled forward, personal responsibility continued to decline, as did the concomitant sense of constructive pride in one's own culture, values & family.

Ultimately it is the ridiculous notion that people are all interchangeable; that no group can function properly but as part of a "diverse" collective underpins the enervating poison with which the Left has injected communities of every type, across the length & breadth of our Federal Union.

Rich & Poor, Black & White, all have been adversely affected--all. Only scoundrels & demagogues benefit from the compulsion driven efforts to force all of us into a dependent mold! (See Compassion Or Compulsion?)

William Flax

80 posted on 07/29/2013 12:41:47 PM PDT by Ohioan
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