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Rand Paul: ‘Old guard’ Losing Elections
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Posted on 08/02/2013 12:02:56 PM PDT by drewh

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said he agrees with those that say there is pushback from the Republican establishment when the party faces heat from factions such as the libertarian wing.

Newt Gingrich said Thursday that he thinks the establishment is growing “more hysterical” as Paul and fellow Republican Sen. Ted Cruz rise in prominence. Paul said Friday on “The Laura Ingraham Show” that he thinks the establishment needs to welcome new ideas.

I think there’s some truth to that and I think the other thing about it is that the old guard needs to realize they’re the ones that have been losing the last couple of elections,” Paul said. “If we want to win for presidency we have to compete in the states where we’re not competing. Precisely, up in the northeast and on the west coast where Republicans are basically on life support. We need to reach out with issues that may attract new people to the party.”

One of the most divisive issues in the GOP has been the threat from some, including Paul, Cruz and fellow Sen. Mike Lee, to shut down the government as a means to defund Obamacare. Paul said he does not support shutting down the government, but rather using the continuing resolution as leverage against the president’s signature health care law.

Paul added that he thinks using the continuing resolution to defund Obamacare gives Republicans in the House leverage against Democrats in the Senate during a conference committee on the budget.

“But if we don’t use our leverage at all, basically the House becomes impotent,” Paul said. “And having a Republican controlled House stops bad things, but we never use our leverage to try to get good things. And the good thing might be that we can’t defund Obamacare, maybe we don’t have the muscle to do that, and we probably don’t. But we use the leverage of the House voting to defund it to try to find an in-between.”


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1 posted on 08/02/2013 12:02:56 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

Maybe Republicans should up the ante. Instead of promising an Obama phone, we promise them.... FORTY ACRES AND A MULE!

Oh wait, that means work!


2 posted on 08/02/2013 12:05:56 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: drewh

If you had told a founding father that representatives would strive to spend their whole lives in Washington,
and would be termed “the old guard” they would have put term limits in the constitution.


3 posted on 08/02/2013 12:08:00 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: drewh
Newt Gingrich said Thursday that he thinks the establishment is growing “more hysterical” as Paul and fellow Republican Sen. Ted Cruz rise in prominence.

Newty is right here, but he was part of the problem when he was in office.

Not just the problems with keeping his snake in the cage, but the idiotic attacks on conservatives.

We might have had a chance with Rick Santorum when it was clear Newt was not able to compete with a guy from Pennsylvania even on his own turf. Santorum had his problems, but at least he had a connection to the Main Street working class people who've grown disgusted with the Wall Street jerks in BOTH parties.

4 posted on 08/02/2013 12:08:59 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The GOP could just offer two chickens in every pot. :-)


5 posted on 08/02/2013 12:09:54 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: drewh

put differently, the Old Guard is doing it’s damndest to retain control of the GOP. And winning.


6 posted on 08/02/2013 12:09:55 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I’m sure there will be people willing to give them crack, booze, big screen televisions and whatever else it is that they want in return for their FORTY ACRES AND A MULE.


7 posted on 08/02/2013 12:10:59 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: bigbob
And in the process will continue to lose elections. The GOP is incompetent, ignorant, leaderless and very un-American.
8 posted on 08/02/2013 12:18:35 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: drewh
Rand Paul: ‘Old guard’ Losing Elections

What the heck is he talking about?

The 'Old Guard' GOP is losing elections for the same crap Rand Paul is promoting -- amnesty for illegals; gays in the military; "America Loses" foreign policy; bigger government; higher taxes; and on, and on.

Rand Paul only pretends to be conservative when talking to conservatives.

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9 posted on 08/02/2013 12:21:28 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: drewh
In the 19th century, Prime Minister William Gladstone was affectionately known as the "GOM", or "Grand Old Man". He was PM during the time Charles George Gordon was trapped in the Sudan in the city of Khartoum. Gladstone eventually sent a relief force to rescue Gordon; but it arrived a couple of days after the defenders (including Gordon) had been killed by the Muslims. The public was outraged, and Gladstone was mockingly referred to as the "MOG" (Murderer of Gordon).

We need to do some sort of reworking of GOP to refer to the feckless Rovians as what they are. Maybe something like POG (Progressive Other Guys).

10 posted on 08/02/2013 12:21:37 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: drewh
My instinct is to desire a new voice rising out of the ranks to lead Conservatism.

Unfortunately, many of the people whose voices I would like to listen to have caused me to see them like this.

They do not grasp the threat of illegal immigration at all.

So while they try to make great thought out sound-bytes, I can only hear one thing.

They think that the collective thoughts of one large body of people, will be improved by pumping in over 100 million new 'foreign national' voices in under 20 years.

Many of those voices will be the voice of people who are committing very serious crimes here.

Tens of millions of those voices will be made up of people who didn't respect this nation enough to come in legally.

Tens of millions more will be the voices of people who directly benefited from members of their family disobeying the laws of our nation.

And how is it these folks are going to make our nation stronger, add to the moral fiber here?

Mr. Rubio, Mr. Curz, Mr. McCain, Mr. Graham...  you're all the same to me.  If you can't get immigration, then you can't get U. S. Sovereignty.



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11 posted on 08/02/2013 12:21:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Nah they would sell the mule to buy dope and the 20 acres would grow up with weeds until taken by the Democrats for taxes.


12 posted on 08/02/2013 12:23:56 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: meadsjn

rand paul’s more of the same... like rubio.

flush ‘em all.


13 posted on 08/02/2013 12:24:22 PM PDT by plsjr (<>< Mankind "knows" by trial and error; Only the CREATOR really knows his creation.)
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To: Vigilanteman

In hind sight Santorum would definitely have been a better VP CN than bird legs sack-o-shitte Paul Ryan!


14 posted on 08/02/2013 12:30:29 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: meadsjn

Right on, that’s some righteous anger @ those dang blasted kids on the lawn!


15 posted on 08/02/2013 12:32:35 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: drewh

The GOP-e has welcomed new ideas...the problem is they are Democratic Party platform ideas.


16 posted on 08/02/2013 12:41:14 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: drewh
he thinks the establishment needs to welcome new ideas

gee, does Newt mean something as novel as following contitution law and punishing those elected officials who break their oaths by supporting unconstitutional legislation??

17 posted on 08/02/2013 12:44:22 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: meadsjn

“West of the Rockies, you’re on the air.”

h/t - “A. Bell”


18 posted on 08/02/2013 12:55:20 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: bigbob

They are winning the gop but losing the country. They haven’t won an election since 2004. They rode the tea parties backs in 2010 and demanded to be put in charge for 2012 and the result was the usual.

The old guard has to go for the sake of the country. They are as much a part of the problem as the democrats.


19 posted on 08/02/2013 1:05:24 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: drewh

My dislike of RINOs has grown exponentially since the last election. Above all, the are cowards. I support anyone who primaries a RINO and will never vote for one for President again.


20 posted on 08/02/2013 1:06:57 PM PDT by AdaGray (Primary Them All)
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