[montanajoe]

The problem is the ax murderer is already in the bed and is bigger than you...

Even the toughest kid on the block can only beat off the bigger guy for so long...

I suspect the old guard looks at the youngsters coming up and may have concluded it they don't get something done now the youngsters will lose it all..

[Piranha]

Some of the older capitulating Israelis in the labor party and a few other fringe groups feel that way but the younger more vibrant and confident Israelis do not.