Posted on 08/18/2013 11:29:47 AM PDT by Pharmboy
By George I think you’ve got it! Got to be LBJ!
I’ll take your word for it- I wasn’t around :)
I’ll take your word for it- I wasn’t around :)
I was still in high school, but paid very close attention to the news even back then. After reading and watching everything I could get a hold of at that time (The New York Times, NY Post, Huntley/Brinkley on NBC News, mainly) I distinctly remember feeling confused about Oswald being left or right.
I was in high school too. I still remember a kid named Tim Sutton telling me that Kennedy had been shot. It was an hour or more before we learned he was dead.
You are right. The media somehow persuaded nearly everyone that Southern Right Wing Gun Owners were responsible. I mean they really did do that. It was also the force behind them finally passing the 68 gun control bill which was a very harsh law.
Money is power, and the Fed was about to lose both...
...this is the only thing that makes any sense to me.
....."money talks, and bullshit walks"......
...United States Notes....
....who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of man...??....maybe we will never know...
The Warren Commission would have us believe that a guy who was privy to those sorts of high-value national secrets in the middle of the darkest times of the Cold War could defect to the Soviet Union, sing like a canary, and then get sent home to the States and not be charged, convicted and sentenced to 25 years in Leavenworth.
Had I done a similar thing in the 1970s, they surely would have put me away for a long, long time. Look at the Falcon and the Snowman case, which happened while I was in. Those two guys were much lower level than Oswald, yet they were imprisoned.
So what gives? The most likely scenario is that Oswald was recruited by the CIA while he was in the Corps; he was sent to the Soviet Union in order to deliver to the Soviets misinformation; the Soviets didn't buy it so they sent him home; and the CIA then prevented charges being brought against him even as they continued trying to get the Soviets to take the bait.
The long and short of it for me: based on my personal experience, the fact that Oswald wasn't serving time in prison and was out and about and capable of continuing his activities is proof positive, at least, that the official story ain't the whole story.
Oswald was almost certainly a CIA agent.
I have suspected LBJ for years, but, when I mention anything about that I get branded a “Conspiracy nut.”
Personally, I think Oswald most likely perpetrated the actual assassination alone. I’m just not sure he was a “free agent”, like the official story says.
The theories about the mafia, Texas oil barons, etc, I pretty much dismiss. If anyone else was involved, it had to be with some government or another. The real question is which one?
Indeed. As several others have posted above, your take on this makes the most sense.
I don’t know, that’s a bit of a stretch to think the KGB would arrange so many “coincidences”, over so many years, just for one relatively unimportant operative. They would have needed to put resources in the military, the State department, and the CIA at risk of exposure just to help Oswald. Why would they do that when Oswald didn’t really have anything to offer in return?
“The most likely scenario is that Oswald was recruited by the CIA while he was in the Corps...”
I think it was earlier than that. When he was about 15, Oswald was a member of Civil Air Patrol in Louisiana. CAP was used at that time as one of many recruiting tools for the intelligence agencies. At that time, David Ferrie, who seems to have been an intelligence asset of some sort, was running his own “rogue” CAP squadron in LA. Despite previous denials, we now have proof that David Ferrie did meet Oswald through their mutual CAP connections at this time, and Oswald could very well have been recruited at that point.
If so, that would explain why it was at that age that Oswald began espousing Communist sympathies and trying to join (infiltrate?) domestic Communist groups. Its been said there were more infiltrators than real members of such groups during that period, so I’d say it was more likely he was an infiltrator than a genuine Communist. Not many people just decide to become Communists on their own, with out any influence or even contact from other Communists. Yet we should believe that Oswald just “converted”, as a teenager in the South, during the 50s, all by himself?
IIRC, he contended that it was a mafia/Cuba conspiracy. There was no love lost between the Kennedys (RFK was after the Itailian mafia) and those two.
Anderson's claim is the Castro "promised" the mafia to let their casinios back in, if JFK was taken out.
I was too young to observe the events at the time.
Not to mention, he is allowed to bring back HIS RUSSIAN WIFE and there is nobody waiting for him when he flies back to the U.S. Oswald's brother says he was extremely disappointed that there were no reporters or any media waiting for his "story so he could get the attention he desperately craved.
I think he was definitely a spook at some level. The fact he could come back with his wife after renouncing his U.S. citizenship and not get thrown in jail as a traitor is incredibly suspicious.
Given all of the kook conspiracy theories out there including one involving LBJ I have settled on Oswald being the lone assassin. There is no way a conspiracy like this could be covered up for 50 years. After all this time the investors essentially have proven no one but Oswald was involved.
When the final evidence is released I doubt we will learn anything significant.
It looks like Oswald indeed fired the shots, and I’m fine with that. I think where we get into the gray zone is how & why Oswald was so connected to American intelligence, and for what reasons ? What was a CIA agent doing standing right behind Oswald in line when he was getting his bus ticket to Mexico City ?
I just don’t think those theories hold any water. The Cubans didn’t do anything without the Soviets signing off, and they wouldn’t have the power to cover up anything over here if they did do it. As for the Mafia, they assassinated Dutch Schultz for breaking the rules and going after a DA. No way they would approve of killing the President and bringing that kind of heat on themselves.
The whole Mexico City episode is full of red flags. When he defected to Russia, Oswald wasn’t shooting in the dark. He knew exactly who to go to get a passport, and everything went like clockwork.
In Mexico City, he does pretty much the opposite. Nobody knows he is coming, he has no bona fides, and he gets nowhere. Oswald would have known, from previous experience, what he needed to do to get the passport, but he did not do it.
So I don’t think he went there to get a passport at all. I think he went there to get documented by the operatives monitoring the embassies, to establish the story that he was in contact with the Soviets. That mission he did accomplish.
Heck, we don’t even know with any certainty if Oswald visited the embassies in Mexico City, like we have been told. The only photo evidence we have is obviously not him, and we have the FBI director on record telling the President it was not Oswald on the recording surveillance tapes too. Lots of funny business with the CIA operation monitoring those embassies and what information they provided to the FBI about Oswald too.
3 weeks before my 15th birthday...
a lifetime ago...
so just why are these files sealed ???
anyone there that day and involved are all dead or almost..
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