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Obama to Propose College Ratings System on Bus Tour
Wall Street Journal ^

Posted on 08/22/2013 8:56:42 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama to Propose College Ratings System on Bus Tour

By Colleen McCain Nelson

President Barack Obama on Thursday will announce proposals aimed at combating rising college costs by creating a new ratings system and eventually tying federal student aid to institutions’ performance.

The president will call for rating colleges before the 2015 school year on measures such as affordability and outcomes, including graduation and transfer rates.

Once that system is in place, Mr. Obama will ask Congress to allocate financial aid based on those ratings by 2018. Students at top-performing colleges could receive larger federal grants and more affordable student loans. The plan is expected to spur pushback from some colleges.

Mr. Obama also will urge innovation in higher education, encouraging colleges to pursue ideas including three-year accelerated degrees and massive open online courses. The president will return to some familiar ideas as well, calling for an expansion of his pay-as-you-earn program that caps student loan payments at 10% of monthly income and re-upping his funding requests for the Race to the Top program, which is focused on state higher education reforms.

The president will lay out his plan on a two-day bus tour that will wind through New York and into Pennsylvania. His first stop Thursday will take him to the University at Buffalo, with a speech planned later in the day in Syracuse.

The president’s college affordability plan is the latest in a wide-ranging series of proposals that the administration has dubbed “a better bargain for the middle class.”

Mr. Obama has said that making college affordable is a “personal mission,” as he’s pledged to shake up the current system. Tuition increases have far outpaced inflation in recent years.

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Obama to Propose College Crony Union Ratings System on Bus Tour.

There fixed it.

So explain how is it the new dean of Rutgers U get's paid 750K?

1 posted on 08/22/2013 8:56:42 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

So, are these buses built in Canada like on his last “tour”?


2 posted on 08/22/2013 8:57:47 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Syracuse eh? Someone must have spelled it for him.


3 posted on 08/22/2013 8:59:14 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Sub-Driver

Gee: I don’t see any way this could be abused./s/


4 posted on 08/22/2013 9:00:08 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hope some freepers bought the tickets for the speech today that were on craigslist.org. Could be fun.


5 posted on 08/22/2013 9:00:12 AM PDT by struggle
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To: massgopguy

BTW, the Princeton Review has been doing this for years.


6 posted on 08/22/2013 9:00:59 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Sub-Driver

This will amount to nothing more than the same program he has for everything. Destroy it and in the process redistribute wealth to His people and screw over YT and the middle class.
Also all perversion will be glorified and all related to a Judeo-Christian heritage is to be mocked or outlawed.
What could go wrong?


7 posted on 08/22/2013 9:02:37 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: Sub-Driver

Let’s take a system we can’t control and introduce crony favoritism!

That’s the ticket!

Wonder how Hillsdale will rate?

Betcha colleges with fully inclusive coed dorm rooms and special facilities for transgenders will be at the top of the heap.


8 posted on 08/22/2013 9:03:04 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Sub-Driver

Perhaps Mr. Obama could release his college records so that we can see how those institutions graded the smartest man in the world.

I mean, he is the standard for all things, right?

/s


9 posted on 08/22/2013 9:03:09 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Endowed by their Creator,' not by men.)
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To: Puppage

Prevost— from Montreal, Quebec. An excellent platform, btw, but not US made.

The old MCIs were great.


10 posted on 08/22/2013 9:03:27 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Sub-Driver

I want to see his college records first.


11 posted on 08/22/2013 9:03:27 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: Sub-Driver

Once again, now that another industry or part of society is hooked on Federal Aid, it finds itself having to dance to manufactured, political “metrics” on performance to keep the dope coming.

Want to reduce college expenses? Cut all Government aid to students and universities.

They will need to cut-back, rationalize, and focus on their core mission just like every other industry


12 posted on 08/22/2013 9:03:34 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Sub-Driver
Mr. Obama has said that making college affordable is a “personal mission,” as he’s pledged to shake up the current system

What has he done about this in the last 5 years? Nothing. Will be do anything that actually reduces the amount of money colleges extract from students? No.

Some mission.

13 posted on 08/22/2013 9:04:42 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: Sub-Driver

Syria? Egypt? Unemployment? Federal Budget Crisis? Immigration? IRS? NSA Leaks?

There’s no problem too big to run away from, eh?


14 posted on 08/22/2013 9:04:50 AM PDT by Makana (Patience is minor despair dressed up as a virtue.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The plan is expected to spur pushback from some colleges.

How will this affect predominately black colleges?

15 posted on 08/22/2013 9:05:04 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Sub-Driver

Now if we could get the prez’s institutional performance tied to true votes and the public’s desire to stop this socialism.

This new “rating” crap is a ploy to tie the academia even closer to the purse strings.... and of course.. the bs lies of .. him. Socialism writ large.


16 posted on 08/22/2013 9:05:54 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Sub-Driver

17 posted on 08/22/2013 9:06:43 AM PDT by mirkwood
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To: Sub-Driver
Net result: Tuition rates will go up even faster.

It's just the way things work in the world that Obama has created for us.

18 posted on 08/22/2013 9:07:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Maybe Obama can reuse Homeland's color-coded system for colleges. Most universities can start out as Orange and move to Green or Red as they donate to Democrats and hire union workers.

-PJ

19 posted on 08/22/2013 9:08:25 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: struggle

I live near buffalo

this is a great big nothingburger of an event

there are more press than people


20 posted on 08/22/2013 9:10:26 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Despite the initial erroneous information from his minions at MSNBC, The One did get to the proper area of the State today to start his latest Campaign Tour...

21 posted on 08/22/2013 9:14:39 AM PDT by mikrofon ("Affordable Education" BUMP)
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To: Makana

Distraction Tour


22 posted on 08/22/2013 9:19:43 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Big Government picking winners and losers. What could possibly go wrong.


23 posted on 08/22/2013 9:30:03 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Ford4000
Better you should have a CDL and be on Federal payroll and earning money , than going into debt.
The reason why colleges are so expensive is due to government subsidies and loans
College expense have far outstripped inflation rates significantly .
Better to be working, than going into $30,000 - $270,000 college debt encouraged and subsidized by government (!)
and then not even have a job !!

24 posted on 08/22/2013 9:46:43 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Sub-Driver

“...and eventually tying federal student aid to institutions’ performance...”

“Performance”, in this case meaning blind, unthinking support for the radical Democrat agenda. Likely meaning a headcount of radical leftist professors and administrators to determine funding. As well as funneling (kickbacks) a large percentage of those federal funds to Democrat candidates; and sponsoring Democrat only absentee voting campaigns among students, in which they sign filled out absentee ballots if they want to pass classes.

And awarding degrees solely based on political association.

Schools must censor all other forms of political speech, and suspend or expel students that resist mandatory political indoctrination. Beyond that, student grades will be determined by race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc.

An LGBT Muslim, illegal alien, racial minority indeterminate gender, will automatically be given straight A’s, which can only be lowered if they cannot accurately parrot leftist dialectic.

Whereas white or Asian Christian male heterosexual students will automatically be given straight F’s, unless they can satisfactorily self-criticize, parrot leftist dialectic, and give large campaign donations to Democrats.


25 posted on 08/22/2013 9:52:00 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is a classic, top-down, one-size-fits-all approach to a problem that government helped create (in this case by via selective subsidies and below-market-interest loans).

The purpose of a governmental plan such as this is not to promote quality but instead, to exercise control.

Countless natural variations occur in populations, and these are reflected in college admissions in such areas as access, affordability, and educational outcomes.

To selectively punish or reward schools by means of arbitrary Federal Standards is a mirror of the government's approach to industry on the whole, the results of which may be found in the present conditions of high unemployment, low competitiveness, and regulatory paralysis.

But none of that matters to a great number of Americans who, having been uniformly trained by our government-run education mills to ignore logic, reason, and history, now expect every problem to be solved by the beneficent powers in Washington.

By the way: does Barack Obama even remember what the inside of the White House looks like? When was he last there? January?

26 posted on 08/22/2013 9:52:32 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: John S Mosby

I don’t think any coach chassis are US made anymore.

I’ve driven:
MCI-9
MCI-10
Blue Bird School buses (one with an 8 speed)
GMC 4106
Old Carpenter
Thomas Cab over


27 posted on 08/22/2013 9:52:49 AM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-NOT IN MY TROOP)
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To: cyclotic

Blue Bird... taken over by an investment takeover firm called...kid you not.. Cerebus. The name for the two headed dog guarding the gates of hell in greek mythology.

When family owned— great company. Had a Bluebird bus conversion RV... tough as nails.


28 posted on 08/22/2013 9:55:56 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Sub-Driver

Does anyone besides school students or Downtown Pittsburgh babushka ladies ride the bus as much as this clown?


29 posted on 08/22/2013 9:57:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver
The president will call for rating colleges before the 2015 school year on measures such as affordability and outcomes, including graduation and transfer rates. Once that system is in place, Mr. Obama will ask Congress to allocate financial aid based on those ratings by 2018. Students at top-performing colleges could receive larger federal grants and more affordable student loans. The plan is expected to spur pushback from some colleges.

This guy does not work like that.

The *sole* rating criteria will be the level of liberalism.

Teaching simple left-liberalism will get you a D.
Teaching MSNBC barking-moonbat-liberalism will get you a C.
Teaching Marxism and Fascism will get you a B.
Teaching pedophelia, Anarchism, and Satanism (or Wahabbism) will get you an A.

30 posted on 08/22/2013 9:58:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Sub-Driver

A better bargain for the unemployed middle class who cannot buy a home, much less pay for college subsidized by the feds who stole the money from them in the first place.

Liar. How about release YOUR grades from college, genius boy. Then we could apply your rating system to your colleges.
octomoron crack daddy.


31 posted on 08/22/2013 9:58:58 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Sub-Driver

And we can find authorization for this expensive federal government meddling where in the constitution?


32 posted on 08/22/2013 9:59:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Still looking in The Constitution where the management and access to US colleges falls to the Presidency.......


33 posted on 08/22/2013 10:04:43 AM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Sub-Driver

Getting lefty/hippie college professors and administrators to take a pay cut back to the levels that the private sector’s are paying is the trick, and obarky ain’t going to seriously try to do that.


34 posted on 08/22/2013 10:09:28 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Extra rating points at college for the ability to grow black skin, Rap, and speak in an unintelligible street dialect.


35 posted on 08/22/2013 10:16:24 AM PDT by Iron Munro (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obvious plan to take over universities and colleges. If you support and teach Obamunism,homosexuality and abortion, your students get financial aid. If you don’t, you don’t.


36 posted on 08/22/2013 10:26:05 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t know if there is enough “Janitor in a Drum” to clean up the stain left by this POS at the University Of NY at Buffalo.


37 posted on 08/22/2013 10:35:46 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Sub-Driver

He wants to rate schools based on graduation rates? The schools with higher standards are likely to have lower graduation rates than the schools which are “degree mills” and allow their students to get A’s if they show up.
And I am guessing he will include racial diversity in rating those schools - so Asians will have a harder time getting in to college because statistically they are “over represented” in the best schools...the schools must decrease the number of Asian students and whites in order to make way for minorities deemed “underrepresented” at the best schools.


38 posted on 08/22/2013 11:11:17 AM PDT by ransomnote
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I’d wager that the lowest rated will be the hated “for profit schools.” I bet the actual plan is to use the power of the federal government to put them out of business.


39 posted on 08/22/2013 12:03:38 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why not rate the students too? The people who administer the ACT released a report the other day that indicates 75% of people who take that test are unprepared in at least one of the five areas tested to do college level work!

That report also noted a great disparity between planned student majors and job opportunities. The grants and loans are no measured against this simple test: Does America really need another (fill in the blank with an occupation)? If the answer is, “No” or “Not really” why should taxpayers subsidize (and likely get stuck with the full bill whent he student defaults on the loan) a person who wants to enter that occupation?

Also targeting grants and loans will prevent people like Liz War Hen, currently the senior senator from Massholia from making $500,000.00 for teaching one law school course a semester!


40 posted on 08/22/2013 1:07:03 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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