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Some NSA Employees Spied on Their Love Interests
The Blaze ^ | Aug. 24, 2013 | Oliver Darcy

Posted on 08/24/2013 6:18:02 AM PDT by xzins

The National Security Agency (NSA) has admitted some of their officers misused the agency’s massive spying powers to keep tabs on their love interests, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported Friday night.

NSA employees reportedly dubbed the practice with its very own spy label: LOVEINT.

U.S. officials said some of the violations included overseas communications, but claimed the practice was “very rare,” according to the WSJ.

Officials reportedly said all employees involved were appropriately disciplined. The incidents were often self-reported, revealed while the officers took polygraph tests during routine security clearance renewals, according to the WSJ.

“NSA has zero tolerance for willful violations of the agency’s authorities,” the NSA said in a statement Friday.

The revelations come in the wake of learning this week that the NSA had violated privacy rules on thousands of occasions. NSA Chief Compliance Officer John DeLong had stressed earlier most violations were unintentional.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) told the WSJ that the NSA admitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee policies were violated in a set of “isolated incidents.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1984; loveint; noaccountability; nsa; nsaloveint; nsascandal; surveillance; typicalloveint
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To: Albion Wilde

People get all goo goo over apps that can plot the stars bsed in your location,but they cant seem to fathom that it is all based on knowing where YOU ARE.

The entire country seems shocked that they know where you are while you tweet out your outrage on an iphone with GPS.
Does anyone in this country even read privacy agreements before they launch software on their computers?

Hell no! Get me to the chat room!


61 posted on 08/24/2013 8:28:47 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: xzins

Snowden alluded to this possibility in his second interview, when he mentioned his most affectionate communications being open to view. He said he doesn’t want to live in a world where that is possible.

Could he have known about these “isolated” incidents?


62 posted on 08/24/2013 8:29:40 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: mylife; xzins

Be sure to read xzins Post #51. Scary.


63 posted on 08/24/2013 8:30:00 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: xzins

Still, the tyranny of numbers makes it impossible for them to monitor everything everybody does in real time.


64 posted on 08/24/2013 8:32:41 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: InterceptPoint

I was thinking of just the USA.

However, the world would be within the sights of those who crave power.

Another article says world data is growing exponentially and will reach roughly 3/4 a zettabyte annually. However, since a single yottabyte is 1000 years of zettabytes, and since the facility is to have “yottabytes plural” in capacity, one really has to recognize the capacity to store everything, but only search for those things that are of interest.

Why have that much capacity without some desire to use it and to search it?


65 posted on 08/24/2013 8:36:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: InterceptPoint

I could have summized as much.
Any chowderhead can pick up a terabyte of storage.

Still, they will hit the wall on storage at some point,and sifting through the data is the real killer.


66 posted on 08/24/2013 8:38:58 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: InterceptPoint

I highly doubt that NSA has an active file on Aunt Mabel.
It would be a tremendous waste of effort.

Does Aunt Mabel have a file?
Most likely.
She has an SSN.


67 posted on 08/24/2013 8:41:42 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

It is not impossible to store it all. The issue becomes using it. They would need powerful algorithms and simple search terms, lots of speed, and (I understand) lots of electricity/budget


68 posted on 08/24/2013 8:41:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
Why have that much capacity without some desire to use it and to search it?

The Question of the Day for sure. Clearly the plan is to use it. But I'm betting the target is not you and me. There are plenty of bad guys out there with data to collect so I'm hoping they are the focus.

69 posted on 08/24/2013 8:42:01 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: xzins
Why have that much capacity without some desire to use it and to search it?

A valid point.

70 posted on 08/24/2013 8:43:34 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: xzins; InterceptPoint

I think we are on the same page


71 posted on 08/24/2013 8:44:52 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: InterceptPoint

I agree that it would take to much manpower, time, to search everybody all the time.

But, “persons of interest” would be the target. And persons of interest would be defined by those with power and by what/who is bothering them.

At any given point it could be you, given that you’re intelligent, capable of communicating, and not afraid of organizing.

I would expect anyone with the capacity to get together groups of people to be of interest.


72 posted on 08/24/2013 8:46:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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Next thing you know people will be shocked at the notion of reverse phone directories.


73 posted on 08/24/2013 8:47:28 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: xzins
It shows they can listen to anybody...and do. Collect anything/everything...and they do.

It also shows a lack of controls. In an establishment that was serious, any access would be logged, and the access request would have to have the warrant # that authorized it entered. And supervisors would be reviewing the logs.

74 posted on 08/24/2013 8:47:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: xzins

Otherwise known as STALKING.

Which would land ORDINARY people in JAIL.

Or at the very least win you an order of protection.


75 posted on 08/24/2013 8:48:06 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: xzins

That is why we have the FISA courts.


76 posted on 08/24/2013 8:48:29 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: xzins
“NSA has zero tolerance for willful violations of the agency’s authorities,” the NSA said in a statement Friday.

These guys are so full of shit that their sneakers squeak.

77 posted on 08/24/2013 8:48:44 AM PDT by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: mylife; InterceptPoint

I agree.

I remember years ago in college taking my little stacks of punch cards to the university computer to have it print out some data (correlations, etc) from a national research survey. We turned them in. Went to class. Did lunch. Then would come back to the center to get our printouts.

I have the same capacity now on my excel spreadsheet on my little laptop I’m now typing on. (better capacity probably)


78 posted on 08/24/2013 8:49:58 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Black Agnes

Stalking is a pretty gray area.
My ex took a restraining order out on me when she left me, and I tried to find out where my Son was.

Who violated who?


79 posted on 08/24/2013 8:51:33 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife
That is why we have the FISA courts.

In theory....but the perquisites of power....

80 posted on 08/24/2013 8:51:58 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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