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HOUSE GOP LEADER: DEFUNDING OBAMACARE 'NOT REALISTIC'
Breitbart ^ | Aug 24, 2013 | By Mike Flynn

Posted on 08/24/2013 10:04:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Black Agnes

CFR and Rush Limbaugh?

What are you talking about?


161 posted on 08/25/2013 3:17:42 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Black Agnes; All

“The fact remains that Limbaugh has had the bully pulpit for over 20 years, millions of listeners, and gazillion advertisers. And yet, nothing substantive has come of that.”

Nothing substantive has come of it? Just the Republican revolution of 1994, when the Republicans took the house for the first time in 40+ years!

Just the exposure of the MSM for the “progressive” hacks that they are to almost 50% of the population.

What do you expect of one radio personality? What would you call substantive? Rush is not God.


162 posted on 08/25/2013 3:54:46 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist
Now, let me get this straight. If Republicans should support funding of the federal government--just without (the much-despised) ObamaCare--and if President Obama should veto that bill, it would be the Republicans who would receive the blame for shutting down the government. That is what the article is saying, right?

NO. The article is saying that the house would vote to defund Obamacare, the Senate would vote to fund it, the MSM would say that the Republicans are purposely shutting down the government to starve old ladies, create dirty air and water,and because they are racists. And it is Bush's fault. It is all about having enough new media to get the message to the American people. If they hear our message, we win. Probably half of them do not hear our message now.

163 posted on 08/25/2013 4:01:33 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: SoFloFreeper; All
(bypass the media if you have to)

Great idea!

Now is the hard part. How do you do it?

164 posted on 08/25/2013 4:03:03 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m so sick of these RINO cowards.


165 posted on 08/25/2013 5:56:03 AM PDT by stratman1969
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To: usconservative
You say you want a revolution

Actually I didn't BUT...

Why can't we all just get along? (without the big cities of course)

166 posted on 08/25/2013 9:03:03 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Jim Robinson; MinuteGal
***They’d have all the Republicans behind them, all of the tea party people behind them, and the majority of all American citizens behind them***

The Tea Party people - the working and producing people - in this country are completely unrepresented in Washington!!! Instead they are considered the enemy!!! That is for whom the billion+ rounds of DHS hollow-point ammunition are intended. I wish I could see how this could be changed at the ballot box.

167 posted on 08/25/2013 10:01:03 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: marktwain

What long lasting things, precisely, did the 1994 Republican revolution accomplish?


168 posted on 08/25/2013 10:33:21 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Bob Ireland
The Tea Party people - the working and producing people - in this country are completely unrepresented in Washington!!!

No they're not. There are TEApublicans in place in Congress.

Instead they are considered the enemy!!!

True enough.

I wish I could see how this could be changed at the ballot box.

Well it has happened to a degree, the continuing mission is not yet over.

TEApartiers just need to keep on working at the grassroots level until they have achieved a viable force in Washington, kicking out RINOs and even replacing any TEApublicans who have failed to perform.

169 posted on 08/25/2013 10:57:17 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Actually I didn't BUT...

No, I did. I was singing the Beatles song to myself when thinking of a reply to your post .... ;-)

Why can't we all just get along? (without the big cities of course)

Now THAT's the best idea I've read all day. It's always the "urbanites" that cause all the trouble anyway. Let's wall 'em off and let 'em suffer in their own crap. The rest of us will be much better off for sure.

170 posted on 08/25/2013 2:18:30 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

You remember Grannie Clampett from the Beverly Hillbillies? Remember her disgust with “city people”?

She was actually referring to filthy communists.


171 posted on 08/25/2013 2:27:48 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
She was actually referring to filthy communists.

Really? I think that show was in re-runs already when I saw it as a youngster in the late 60's or early 70's..... I think I was ... 10 years old or so. Didn't know what a communist was, just knew that was a damn' funny show.

172 posted on 08/25/2013 3:14:21 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
Really? I think that show was in re-runs already when I saw it as a youngster in the late 60's or early 70's..... I think I was ... 10 years old or so. Didn't know what a communist was

Oh, well I saw it on black and white TV...weekly. I doubt Irene Ryan was really all that political, although she lived through the McCarthy era.

But just by watching who city people elect, and their stupid policies, we can tell what they are. (See county by county election maps)

We learned all about communists in grade school, and my mom, who was a "war bride" from WWII Germany, told me more about both the nazis and the communists.

She said they were at one time street gangs in Frankfurt, shooting it out in the streets....kinda like now.

173 posted on 08/25/2013 5:09:31 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: usconservative

The First American Republic is DOA.

Time has come for the birth of the Second American Republic.


174 posted on 08/25/2013 7:47:20 PM PDT by Jack_Reed
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To: Jim Robinson

Clarity
The Washingtonians need to be neutralized


175 posted on 08/25/2013 8:08:44 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Black Agnes; okie01
Black Agnes is right on with this one, okie. He/she's figured out that Rush, et.al., main purpose is to quell any real opposition to the GOP agenda.

I can think of several times Rush had a golden opportunity to effect change in the Republican party, during the Bush years in particular, but chose rather to pacify his listeners with the false hope that if they just hang on and pull the 'R' lever next time around, all will be well again.

Only a sample here, but open borders (even in the face of a screaming electorate), Bush ignoring pleas to restore religious freedom in the military, spending American blood and treasure to ‘create a democracy’ in (of all places) Iraq, touting the lie of slam is a ‘religion of peace’ nonsense, going for a North American Union treaty without Congressional debate or approval, and the list goes on. Rush was instrumental in running interference for Bush.

Rush, et.al., never demanded the Republicans defend themselves from media lies. Sure, he gives it token attention, but never really conveys how diabolical and destructive allowing this to go on is.

Most egregious, Rush, et.al., never demanded proof of eligibility of obama, and/or full disclosure of his life, school and medical records, and more. The future of the country was at stake, but pleasing his GOP masters was deemed more important.

I listen, and I know whereof I speak. As BA points out, the proof is in the pudding: we've witnessed two decades of systematic erosion of our culture, economy, political system; even our rights under the Constitution are all but gone. Rush himself often says that conservatives judge from results - liberals judge based on intent, regardless of the end result.

Therefore by Rush's own standards, his tenure on the radio has done nothing significant to stop and reverse what some call the wholesale liquidation of America, much less improve the state of affairs here.

176 posted on 08/25/2013 8:39:24 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone; All

Your belief in the power of Rush is amazing. Your belief about what he *could* accomplish is little short of giving him god-like powers.

One of the biggest threats to the Republic is the formation of a conservative third party. It would spilt the electorate three ways, insuring a “Progressive” government as far as the eye can see.

The only potential solution is to take over the Republican party. It can be done, it was done before.

The biggest problem is the MSM, of which Rush is a partial balance.

With the way you reason on this, Jim Robinson is part of the conspiracy too, insuring that enough conservatives stay home to get Barack Obama reelected.

Your understanding of “golden opportunities” are far different than Rush’s. He is where he is in part because he is in tune with a significant chunk of the culture.

A whole lot of people see the Iraq war as necessary to prevent a base for Al Queda to operate out of with impunity, and with the ability to obtain more weapons and resources than they currently have.

We won that war, and probably would have take out Iran as well, except the Democrats and the MSM did everything they could to make us lose it and keep us from stopping Iran. You ignore all the domestic opposition to Bush by the other side, specifically putting their partisan politics ahead of the safety of the country.

Tell me, how is Rush to *demand* that Republicans defend themselves from media lies? I have heard plenty of them defend themselves on his show, but the MSM doesn’t allow them to do it on their shows. So how are they going to do it now? After hours speeches on C-Span?

The problem is, and always has been, the “progressive” take over of the Media (and much of the rest of the culture).

We would be far worse off without Rush.

I have wanted him to push where I thought he could make a difference. I thought he should have pushed hard on the Waco and Ruby Ridge Scandals. Crickets.

Rush has come a long way.

Expecting him to change the world and saying that he is part of a conspiracy on the other side because he has not does not stand up to Occam’s Razor.


177 posted on 08/25/2013 10:03:05 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain
“Your belief in the power of Rush is amazing. Your belief about what he *could* accomplish is little short of giving him god-like powers.”

Not exactly. In my post I repeatedly stated: *Rush, et al.*, indicating others of the same persuasion are included. The others I am referring to are the likes of Hannity, Ingraham, Levin, Savage, Malzberg, Wilcow, and others like Fox News and Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin.

I didn't want to take up more space by naming all of them but I meant that if all them pounded the drum the same way on the same issues on a daily basis it most certainly would have an effect on both politicans and the electorate, quite possibly a historical effect.

Therefore I am not raising Rush to Deity status at all, but he does reach quite a number of people daily, does he not?

My angst with the Iraq/Afghanistan war, is Bush's assertion that ‘we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here’. To me that rings hollow since he failed to seal the borders (a no-brainer), a constant mantra that slam is a ROP (an obvious falsehood), refused to profile as a means of protecting us, and did things like create the monstrosity of a DHS (we know how that is working out for us law-abiding Americans) and Federalize the TSA people (why?).

Because the problem wasn't dealt with quickly and decisively when it could have been we now have multiple and chronic problems with that violent political ideology called islam right here at home. Suppisedly FOX news is the most watched news of anyone; talk radio tens of millions, blogs, twitter, facebook, who knows how many. It is inconceivable that if they all pushed in the same direction at the same time and focused on one or two or three big issues, we would see very satisfactory results. Finally, I am an advocate of a third party. My position is that we may not get the country back with a third party, but we know it won't be done by the GOP. I've seen too many Rubios and McCains and Snowes and Bushs and a party leadership that despises the conservative, the Christian conservative in particular. Rush mentioned several time that Republicans "are embarrassed" by us. Wasn't the post-mortem after the Romney loss that the party was going after the homosexuals and illegals and hispanics and forget about the conservative? I think that was Mr. Prebus' (sp?) idea.

178 posted on 08/25/2013 11:08:14 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
***No they're not. There are TEApublicans in place in Congress***

Yeah... whata powerful coalition that is - all ten of them!

*** Well it has happened to a degree, the continuing mission is not yet over.
TEApartiers just need to keep on working at the grassroots level until they have achieved a viable force in Washington***

Yeah... if we can only survive a $90 trillion debt long enough...
See ya in the re-education camp!

179 posted on 08/26/2013 10:23:19 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

Right.

And your new and exciting 54th “third party” has how many exactly?


180 posted on 08/26/2013 11:56:28 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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