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The Poisonous Employee-Ranking System That Helps Explain Microsoft’s Decline
Slate ^ | Friday, August 23, 2013 | Will Oremus

Posted on 08/25/2013 6:24:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

There were many reasons for the decline of Microsoft under Steve Ballmer, including, as I wrote this morning, its lack of focus and its habit of chasing trends rather than creating them. But one that’s not obvious to outsiders was the company’s employee evaluation system, known as “stack ranking.” The system—and its poisonous effects on Microsoft’s corporate culture—was best explained in an outstanding Vanity Fair feature by Kurt Eichenwald last year...

So while Google was encouraging its employees to spend 20 percent of their time to work on ideas that excited them personally, Ballmer was inadvertently encouraging his to spend a good chunk of their time playing office politics. Why try to outrun the bear when you can just tie your co-workers' shoelaces?

Microsoft wasn’t the first company to adopt this sort of ranking system. It was actually popularized by Jack Welch at GE, where it was known as “rank and yank.” Welch defended the practice to the Wall Street Journal in a January 2012 article, saying, “This is not some mean system—this is the kindest form of management. [Low performers] are given a chance to improve, and if they don't in a year or so, you move them out. "

As the Journal and others have noted, what seemed to work for Welch—for a time, anyway—has produced some ugly results elsewhere. Even GE phased the system out following Welch’s departure.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aboreyouknow; adoorknob; generalelectric; jackwelch; kurteichenwald; microsoft; msbuttboys; rankandyank; slate; stackranking; steveballmer; vanityfair; willoremus
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To: adorno

Apple made their products too good, if anything.....People don’t feel the need to upgrade from the Apple products they bought 3 or 4 years ago.

141 posted on 08/25/2013 1:40:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SamAdams76

Massachusetts College of Art Class of 1974.

A State College.

That probably explains a LOT! :-)

142 posted on 08/25/2013 1:40:26 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: SunkenCiv
Yes. Betamax vs. VHS.

Look at Sprint as a current example. They were the leaders in 3g/4g cellular when they built a national WiMax network. Unfortunately, the industry eventually settled on LTE and Sprint went from first to last as they are trying to catch up. They are dismantling their WiMax network and scrambling to build LTE.


143 posted on 08/25/2013 1:40:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: left that other site

At least four separate subthreads. :’)

144 posted on 08/25/2013 1:47:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Daffynition
Bad Day at the Office (original viral video)

Bad Day at the Office (original viral video)

145 posted on 08/25/2013 1:47:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv


146 posted on 08/25/2013 1:47:31 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Revolting cat!

If you tear that image into four equal pieces, I’ll give you a quarter.


147 posted on 08/25/2013 1:49:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: pierrem15
It it weren't for Office, no one-- and I mean no one-- would use Windows.

That's pure garbage and you know it.

Most people who use Windows don't have Office installed, and might never do it. Windows is a stand-alone OS, and not a prerequisite to a follow up product, such as Office. The corporate sector does use Office, and thus, they do need a good OS to go with it, and that's why Windows is a prerequisite in that area, but that's not the case for the consumer sector.

When it comes to Windows 7, there is no question that it was/is the most stable version of Windows ever, and, since there is no such thing as a perfect product, people will have some issues, but the vast majority of people won't. There is a very good reason for Windows 7 having sold more than 660 million licenses. I myself have never had an issue with Windows 7, and now, with Windows 8, I haven't had any either. Windows 8 is an improved version of Windows 7, but with two different faces or UIs. If most of MS's products were "POS", like you say, then most people would never have been able to get anything done with them, including the corporate sector. But, you and I and the whole world knows that that is not the case. So, perhaps the problem is YOU. In a lot of cases, hardware and software were designed to be used in certain ways, but there are people out there who don't know how to follow instructions. ;)
148 posted on 08/25/2013 1:49:38 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Political Junkie Too

WiMax suffered from that ill-considered lawsuit from Clear, on the stupid litigation ideas list, it probably nudges that $60 million lawsuit their record label brought against the band Boston because the third album took so long.

Also, the WiMax buildout didn’t reach much beyond urban areas, but because it has a long range (perhaps 25 miles line of sight), it was offered in areas which didn’t really have coverage, so someone got sued for that idea. WiMax would work, but the dropouts and resends drastically increase with distance.

Sprint offers LTE where I live here in the Boonies (actually, I’m about three miles past the Boonies, but anyway), and no one else does (yet, and probably won’t until LTE is itself superseded); Costco’s price on it is $67 unlimited data, I’ve definitely been thinking about it.

What is needed is 100% optic line coverage, everywhere; all the TV, phone, and web services would be offered on that; and the network would be the sole delivery channel for all land line biz, and jointly owned. The installation costs would be offset by the copper recovery and recycling value as the old lines are removed from trenches and poles.

149 posted on 08/25/2013 2:03:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Did I mention we didn’t create a problem by hiring idiots to begin with?

A good manager will hire smart and able people, who will naturally gravitate to him. He's not intimidated by people smarter than himself.

A poor manager not only will not, but cannot surround himself with good people. He wouldn't know a good employee if he saw one, would probably find be repulsed by somebody smarter than himself, and good people tend to stay away from fools.

150 posted on 08/25/2013 2:03:48 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It wasn't the Rodeo Clown's act, it was the crowd reaction they could't take.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Yup. And also, the second a good manager lets his guard down and hires an idiot, the whole thing collapses rapidly. That one idiot destroys the cohesion, the morale and the desire to excel in the rest.

Oh did I get an inside view on that one once.

151 posted on 08/25/2013 2:08:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: dfwgator
Apple made their products too good, if anything.....People don’t feel the need to upgrade from the Apple products they bought 3 or 4 years ago.

That's essentially what happened with PCs, where most people now don't feel the need to upgrade to anything new, since what they have now is more than adequate for 5 or more years. So, tablets, and even smartphones, will not be getting upgraded as often as every 1 or 2 years, like has been the case, and the biggest reason for Apple and Samsung having such good sales.
152 posted on 08/25/2013 2:19:59 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: staytrue

“Ok, but in the first 2 years, was this good ? I suspect it was as the competent people stayed and the deadwood got cleared out.”

Even before this policy it was a very demanding environment where poor performers are not tolerated for very long. There wasnt alot of dead wood to start but the new policy demanded that 15 percent of people in ALL organizations were deemed poor performers. For example if you had a group of 10 nobel prize winners, one of them would have been rated unsatisfactory. Lots of good people got flushed.

153 posted on 08/25/2013 2:45:06 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: duckman

“This happened to me several years ago. I was an employee at a major computer company for 25 years. I was usually evaluated as a 1 or a 2 performer. I transfered, within the same company, to another site into a group of 1 performers. Since I was new to the department and had the timing misfortune of joining the department during a ‘ranking’ session, I was ranked at the bottom and ‘yanked’.”

I saw that happen in my organization while I was a manager. While ranking employees in other organizations if no one knew who you were you got a poor rating. Luckily I was able to get out of management and back to the bench after a few years.

154 posted on 08/25/2013 2:58:23 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Gritty; gogeo
The HR Department is a millstone around the neck of any company who has one...

I think that's true. How many businesses of a certain size do NOT have an HR Dept? Any? Why?

I think it's partly the mindset of many businesses that "expertise," however defined, is valued. The thought is that hiring and managing people is such an important function that we need "experts" which is in this case HR professionals. The results speak for themselves.

However, HR depts. serve a much more important function for a company...they PROTECT THE COMPANY FROM ITS EMPLOYEES.

I believe the #1 priority of any HR Dept is...don't let us get sued. So there are all kinds of methods and processes for hiring and firing that are legally sound but functionally null (at best).

While true for some companies, I think that really depends on the company and the HR department.

Compliance is a huge issue for companies now days; federal and state DOL regulations, EEOC, FMLA, unemployment claims, workers compensation, disability claims, health and welfare benefits, wrongful terminations, fair hiring practices, background checks and drug screenings, what you can and can’t ask in an interview, policies that you can and can’t include in the employee handbook and in the case of the company I work for – payroll with all the tax and other regulations that fall on my dept which is under HR - it’s a mine field out there and having a competent HR department does help keep the company out of court and prevent them from being fined big bucks.

I’ve also seen our HR manager go to bat for our employees and she really does listen to their concerns and complaints and when valid, she tries to resolve their issues and acts as their advocate. She advises/mentors employees who want to move up, or transfer to other positions within the company, telling them if they are not qualified but also tells them why and with suggestions for further training or areas where they need improvement or if they are qualified, makes sure they have a fair shot at the promotion or transfer. She’s been with this company for over 24 years and knows our business, the area and the “culture” and really has her finger on the pulse of all our workers and is highly respected by all for her honesty and fairness.

I’ve also seen her question performance reviews conducted by a manager where that manager gives one employee a higher review score than another but the comments on the review are either exactly identical or the employee with the higher score has been recently reprimanded, has a poor attendance record or has been put on an improvement plan – yes, there is potential legal exposure for the company that she is concerned about, but she also wants to ensure that an employee is truly not being treated unfairly by a manager with a grudge or personal issue not related to their employee’s performance. She will also look at outstanding performance reviews and talk to their manager about the employee’s potential for promotion and then the employee to ascertain if that is something that they are interested in pursuing. She also makes sure that our performance reviews are written in such a way as to be both meaningful and fair to the employees and management and not onerous or overly time consuming for supervisors to complete.

And I’ve seen managers write job descriptions for new positions but when it comes to writing the job listing, they ask for things like degrees or certifications that are not at all supported by the actual job description or they have unrealistic expectations of what that position should pay, either way too low or way too high. A good HR manager can bring both the manager’s expectations of what is needed vs. what is “wanted” and what the job market is paying for those positions and for our region and our industry, what a qualified applicants expect in an offer and brings theses all in line to get the best candidate for the job. One recent example was when we had an opening for a pricing analyst. The hiring manager wanted 10+ years of experience in pricing and both a BA and an MBA in but only wanted to pay something like $15 per hour as a non-exempt (hourly) employee but the actual job description as written did not support this. She told the hiring manager it was a waste of both her and his and any applicant’s time to advertize the position that way and bring in qualified candidates and then only offer them $15 per hour and for a non-exempt position when the job description alone would make it salaried position and that the job advert as proposed would bring in only people looking for a lot more than $15 per hour. As a result, with her help, the manager re-wrote both the job description and the job advert (upgraded the job description a bit and lowered the job advert to match and more in line with what was really needed) and we hired someone who so far is working out very well and within the new job description, a job and person who filled it that are serving the business needs and well within budget and a new hire who is not likely to quit in a few weeks or months because the job and pay wasn’t what they wanted or within the market price for their skills set.

Last year we got a new president and he has tried to make a lot of changes in a very short time – some are good and make sense and some are just because that was what he was used to at his last company and or, and in my opinion, he just wants to flex his muscle and authority and make changes for the sake of making changes.

Effective January 1, we are becoming a 100% smoke free campus and while my HR manager is a smoker herself, she was more concerned and stood up for our other and especially our hourly employees when it was proposed by upper management that: we should drug test for nicotine as we would for illegal narcotics and telling hourly workers that they were not allowed to leave the building during their unpaid lunch break or if they were allowed to leave the building, that they couldn’t smoke in their own vehicle even while off company property or parked on the public street across from our facility or in not hiring new employees who were smokers (which is illegal in NC where one of our plants is located). She made it very clear that while such a policy is supposed to be an incentive to quit smoking and in theory to reduce our healthcare costs and she supports the smoke free campus idea and this policy would be “legal” except for our NC plant. She also pointed out that smoking is still legal and that by treating workers who smoke and only the hourly employees with unpaid meal breaks (as opposed to salaried or some hourly workers on 2nd, 3rd and weekend shift workers who get a paid meal break), many of them long time and productive workers, like criminals or children, that this would have a real negative effect on moral. She also pointed out that workers who are not smokers could be engaging in activities or life style choices on their free time that could also impact their health and her push back resulted in a more reasonable and fair policy.

The new president also recently wanted us to change our Paid Time Off (PTO) policy, originally wanting to institute effective January 1, an annual “use it or lose it” policy and then when that was struck down, a reduced number of hours one could carry over from year to year (to only 40 hours), and reducing the maximum caps on accrued PTO hours to 120 hours across the board, regardless of how long they’ve worked for the company and totally eliminating the ability to cash out unused PTO. While again, she understood the economic reasons for the proposed changes and supported it, she also brought to the president and the compensation committee’s attention the fact that some employees with more than 20 years with the company have banked up to their max, in some cases up to 300 hours of PTO and that there was no way they could use all that time between now and the end of the year without impacting production and that it was unfair for them to lose this time especially if they were not able to cash it out or use that time due to business needs. She also advocated for a cap and carry over limit higher than 40 hours as because if an hourly employee goes out on short term disability, they have a four week wait period and can use their banked PTO as a float until their STD kicks in. In this case she looked at what was good for the company but also what was fair to the employees.

While I’ve worked for some companies where HR was only looking out only for the company, even ignoring or supporting illegal or unethical employment policies, that’s not how it works at the company I work for presently - and thank goodness.

155 posted on 08/25/2013 3:43:16 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: varmintman
Thanks but no thanks.

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156 posted on 08/25/2013 4:29:09 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA
It sounds like the head of your HR ought to be the head of you company. That's unusual.’s a mine field out there and having a competent HR department does help keep the company out of court and prevent them from being fined big bucks.

You're right about that. In the end though, the value of HR is mostly related back to government, lawyers, and unions - all parasites or sand-in-the-gears people who add little or nothing much of value to either the company or the product.

157 posted on 08/25/2013 4:31:55 PM PDT by Gritty (The idea social progress can never be uninvented is one of the left's laziest assumptions-Mark Steyn)
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To: SunkenCiv
Yeah, I still recall, back in the days when digital cameras were becoming seriously comparable to film in quality, the geniuses at E.Kodak announced that they were dropping their entire digital photography efforts" to "focus on their film business".

Now, with thousands of $$$ worth of film Nikons (for which film and processing are hardly available) in the safe, I'm 100% digital, and my hold-out wife is just about to give up film...

Even back when Kodak pulled that dumb@$$ move, it didn't take a futurist with a computer to predict Kodak's demise...

158 posted on 08/25/2013 4:32:25 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: adorno; llevrok
"I'd say that Apple is closer to being like Kodak was, than MS or even Google. "

Bravo sierra! Kodak rode one old horse (film) into the ground; Apple keeps inventing new horses.

Microsoft can barely stay in the saddle on horses others invented...


Nice try, Steve...

159 posted on 08/25/2013 4:42:48 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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Microsoft is still sitting on a ton of cash. Things can change in an instant.

160 posted on 08/25/2013 4:44:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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