how many of those that contracted measles had the vaccination already?
looks like both vaccinated and unvaccinated contracted the disease. who got better faster I wonder? hmmm
there are always some risks to vaccinations, sometimes perhaps more than are acknowledged
but then again, there are risks to NOT getting vaccinations, too.
life is unfair, then you die.
it may be wiser to ask the good pastor about that (the next life), rather than relying too much on his medical advice for this life?
Looks like some lessons need to be re-learned. The hard way so it seems. Globull warming, ozone hole, NSA spying lies - not surprising that few believe anything the govt says.
This is one of those times that doubt (and lack of immunization) will cause suffering.
Scam flim flam man
Sometimes, medicine works faster than prayer.
How can one possibly love God and his neighbor if one is willing to let people die of diseases that God has given us the intellect to cure? That is like walking past an injured traveler rather than lending them aid like a good Samaritan. God gave us our brains for a reason.
So if you are against having children forcibly medicated by the government, you are against modern medicine.
I had occasion to help a guy (pay for) attend a church-related ‘cure diabetes clinic’ ....
Two days into it, I discovered the clinic doctor had cancelled all insulin.
Cold turkey withdrawl, if you will.
We had a very long talk (since he kept saying he trusted his prayers to cure the patients’ diabetes ... and I said go ahead and pray but at least give the good Lord a few days to effectuate the cure...restore the insulin and carefully taper it down as you pray....and monitor the glucose levels.... so you can SEE God’s curative powers in action...or something like that....)
Anyway, the issue was resolved only when the doc’s wife told her husband that “all the gentleman wants you to do is practice medicine properly, dear, since you are a doctor after all....”
I really think that medical doctors are normally the ones to consult for medical advice, and pastors are the ones to consult for spiritual advice, and the twain should not ordinarily get too mixed up.
Both trades require a lot of learning and practitioners can make enough mistakes in their own trades without trying to mix into the other.
Just my opinion.
What are the numbers? For example, if 75% of the "anti-vaccine cult" population was not vaccinated, and if only 51% of those infected were not vaccinated, then the infections were higher among those who were vaccinated.
Clearly, the vaccination was ineffective for many who were vaccinated. This story is evidence against vaccination.
I will never understand the mindset that can accept that God created disease, but not that he created doctors.
It reminds me of a favorite old joke/parable:
Bob is sitting on his porch as flood waters rise around his house. The sheriff comes by in a jon boat with a few of his neighbors. “Hop on, Bob,” the sheriff says. “Water’s still risin’. It’s not safe here.”
“Naw,” Bob says. “My trust is in the Lord. He will provide.”
The waters continue to rise, and now he’s on his roof. A state patrol motorboat pulls alongside. “Get in!” the trooper shouts over the rushing waters. “We’ve got to get you out of here!”
“Naw,” Bob says. “My trust is in the Lord. He will provide.”
The waters are still rising, now up to Bob’s chest as he sits on the peak of his roof. A Coast Guard helicopter arrives, framing Bob in its floodlights and lowering a rescue collar. “Feed your arms through the collar and we’ll pull you to safety,” the Coast Guard Pilot says.
“———” says Bob, inaudible over the sound of the chopper as he bats the rescue collar away.
After a few minutes, the chopper crew gives up and leaves to look for others. The waters rise over Bob’s head, and he drowns.
When Bob awakens, he is surrounded by a soft white light and feels a peaceful warmth pass over him. But he is not at peace. “Lord!” he cries in anguish. “I trusted in you, as you instructed in your Word. How could you forsake me in my hour of need?”
A booming voice seems to come from everywhere at once. “My child, I sent you two boats and a helicopter. What were you waiting for?”
Vaccines are very good but not perfect.
Also I trust media about as far as I can throw them to tell us what this place really preached (though the foreign press usually gets US news events more accurate than our crazy MSM). A classical Christian approach would be to make it a matter of individual freedom and not preach that using the vaccine is either a sin or obligatory.
If vaccination is meant to protect against the disease, why are the vaccinated contracting it?
Guess you could say Copeland’s message went ‘viral’.
“A Texas megachurch connected to a pastor who has openly questioned the benefits of modern medicine has been forced to host vaccination clinics after 21 members of the congregation contracted measles. “
I hope he doesn’t question Newton’s laws of physics before deciding to jump off the Empire State Building.
Even when immunized some people do not respond by producing anti-bodies. They have a high probability of getting sick if exposed to the disease.
For example, I took the full course of Hepititis B vaccines but have never responded with antibodies.
That should be Hepatitis.
Blame the preacher crowd goes wild. Over the past several years children have not been vaccinated due to the autism link. I am not debating whether it exists or not, but that is a big deal to patents now. Public screwls demand vaccination compliance, so that leaves home schoolers as the pro choice crowd.