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The Real Republican Adversary? Population Density
Dave Troy Blog ^ | November 19th, 2012 | Dave Troy

Posted on 09/04/2013 5:19:18 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas

Curious about the correlation between population density and voting behavior, I began with analyzing the election results from the least and most dense counties and county equivalents. 98% of the 50 most dense counties voted Obama. 98% of the 50 least dense counties voted for Romney...

At about 800 people per square mile, people switch from voting primarily Republican to voting primarily Democratic. Put another way, below 800 people per square mile, there is a 66% chance that you voted Republican. Above 800 people per square mile, there is a 66% chance that you voted Democrat. A 66% preference is a clear, dominant majority...

First, there are very few cities in red states. Second, the few dense cities that do exist in red states voted overwhelmingly democratic...

Red states simply run out of population at about 2,000 people per square mile. St. Louis is the only city that exceeds that density in a red state. It voted overwhelmingly Democratic (82.7%)..

If that’s the case, an Hispanic candidate running on the same old Republican platform will simply not resonate. The Republican party must develop a city-friendly platform to survive.

(Excerpt) Read more at davetroy.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: population; rural; urban; voters
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The stats are accurate, so the question becomes: why are current Republican candidates failing to connect with urban (and especially younger, well educated) voters?
1 posted on 09/04/2013 5:19:18 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

The article is drivel - Another author who confuses correlation with causation.


2 posted on 09/04/2013 5:27:35 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Cornered rats are a problem.


3 posted on 09/04/2013 5:27:47 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: from occupied ga

We could try getting rid of cities.


4 posted on 09/04/2013 5:29:21 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

I believe the difference is found in reliance. To live in a city, you rely on the government to provide a number of things including water, power, police, fire, etc. It is also necessary to rely on others for many basic needs such as food, transportation, education, etc.

So the society model is different between city and country. In the city, an individual specializes and get paid a salary. Then uses money to obtain other needs. In the country / rural model, the individual must generalize and produce their needs themselves, thus reducing their costs and can then live on a lesser income.

This causes a change in fundamental views of the world. In the city, one must go along in order to get along. They must live with fewer freedoms and are more dependent on others. In the country, one must produce for themselves and thus want fewer restrictions on what they can do. The can be independent and value freedom above conformity.


5 posted on 09/04/2013 5:30:24 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Paladin2

I’ve long advocated giving NYC to Quebec. There is no downside. It screws the socialist Canadians in Quebec, and it gets rid of a large chunk of willfully ignorant democrats from the rest of the USA


6 posted on 09/04/2013 5:32:55 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

I give you another example. Howard county Maryland was solid Republican up till ~ GWB first term. Now it is solid Dem. Voted Dem 2004.

What changed ?

Large scale housing (with business) development and large scale immigration. Still going on too. , lots of $$$$.

Also lots of government contracts and section 8 rentals, as well as affordable home programs, county pays for half the house and charges half the property taxes for lower incomes. (typical dem stuff)


7 posted on 09/04/2013 5:36:00 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

The effect was noted but the cause omitted.

The cause for Democrat victory in the cities is fraud. The control and manipulation of votes cast is easy in the dense populated cities.

If New York and San Francisco were destroyed, the balance would be different


8 posted on 09/04/2013 5:42:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

The left controls the media and the universities that are educating young professionals. Get them collected together in urban areas, and it becomes a matter of group think, wanting to fit in. It’s the urban blight of politics.


9 posted on 09/04/2013 5:44:56 AM PDT by pallis
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When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.

Thomas Jefferson
10 posted on 09/04/2013 5:48:04 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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"Thomas Jefferson "

I was going to point out that when teh country was founded, population density was low.

11 posted on 09/04/2013 5:57:07 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

There is also a certain “hive mentality” associated with cities.


12 posted on 09/04/2013 6:03:57 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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Single women vote democrat over 65% regardless of race and income in the cities. Young urban educated single women vote around 70% democrat. Yound urban educated people are highly out-numbered by the union and welfare vote in cities. But these people should be voting republican. The problem I see it is single women who have very high numbers in cities. Once woman gets married she will for the most part flee the democrat party. The government union and welfare vote is a lost cause and will never vote republican. Our only chance in cities is to get this people working in the private sector and get them married. It is not trending that way if ever.
13 posted on 09/04/2013 6:17:57 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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Its not the quantity of people in the cities, its the quality.
14 posted on 09/04/2013 6:20:09 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Paladin2
We could try getting rid of cities

Detroit's working on that at this very moment. I find it interesting how the Second Law of Thermodynamics can be applied to Social Engineering.

15 posted on 09/04/2013 6:21:51 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: taxcontrol

In the past city government did provide these services at a reasonable price and were mostly covered under property taxes. Those days are gone. Trash pick-up is paid with a fee. School bus pick-up is paid with a fee. High School sports fee. Water and sewer, abusrd rates. Power, pay through the nose. Public transportation, rates keep climbing bi-annually while services are scaled back. If you are a taxpayer in the city you pay more for less. At the rate we are going taxes will be collected for no services and all services including police will be fee based. It makes no sense why a city taxpayer would vote democrat. Also don’t forget the welfare vote in cities is around 40%. Throw in government unions and democrats have a lock on 50% of a cities vote. The other half are just stupid.


16 posted on 09/04/2013 6:29:59 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: taxcontrol

Yes, your typical NYC liberal points to all the needed and useful guv services in the City as a reason to be pro-big government generally.

I’d add, however, that racial privileges (i.e., affirmative-action) brings about pro-big government voting solidarity in the favored minorities whether they are rural or urban.


17 posted on 09/04/2013 6:39:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
The Republican party must develop a city-friendly platform to survive.

Voters in these urban areas expect continuous bags of money to arrive from Washington and from their State Capital to maintain public services and cover union employee costs, without having to raise their local taxes.

You think the GOP is up for that???


18 posted on 09/04/2013 6:40:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Likely the difference between low density and high density population voting patterns reflects the relative percentage of people receiving W2 vs 1099’s.

1099’s are all independent business people. You’ll have a higher percentage of those in rural areas.

W2’s are employees. You’ll have a higher percentage of those in urban areas.


19 posted on 09/04/2013 6:42:54 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

The Democrats always do well with dense voters.


20 posted on 09/04/2013 6:42:54 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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