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To: neverdem
predicts that the renewable energy surcharge added to every consumer's electricity bill will increase from 5.3 cents today to between 6.2 and 6.5 cents per kilowatt hour

The article makes no mention of just what they are now, but in 2010 they were 30 cents per KWH. Add in the rate increases and it goes over $0.36 per KWH.

We pay $0.117 in rural CO, an outrageous price already.

Without the environazi’s ( and there are a few Freeper enviro-nazis too, you know who you are) it would be half, or about 5 cents per KWH.

Germany's rates, 3x ours, is where the environazi's (including the Freepers aforementioned) are taking all of us.

Mentally, triple your electric bill, see where that gets you.

5 posted on 09/06/2013 7:10:52 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (SWAT stands for Storing Weapons for patriots to Attack Tyranny.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Mentally, triple your electric bill, see where that gets you.

While it hurst individuals, many people don't see it as an undue burden because they can pay the bills. But there are whole classes of industries that are very energy dependent, and cannot move into an area with high energy prices. The jobs go elsewhere. Even industries like data centers are extremely rate dependent.

7 posted on 09/06/2013 7:19:11 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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thanks for the details. Incredibly stupid of Germany to shut down their nukes.


14 posted on 09/06/2013 7:59:01 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Balding_Eagle

I’ve lived in Germany off and on for twenty years....so I can tell this story in a simplified way.

In the 1970s...along came the Greens and the environmentalists. In the beginning...they rarely got any platform space in newspapers, magazines, or TV journalism. By the 1990s, that had changed and they used their platforms to hustle and scare folks.

There aren’t alot of nuclear power plants in Germany. None have been built since the 1980s, and the current plan....enthusiastically rejoiced by the bulk of the public after the Japanese disaster...will shut down within the next fifteen years.

In the weeks after Japan’s episode, they milked the system as much as they could....convincing everyone of the terrible nature of nuke power. The conservative party backed itself into the corner and just said they’d make it the national agenda.

Power companies over the past decade in Germany have looked at the future. It’s screwed up. Between regulation, lack of nuke power, and confusing politics....there’s only one answer. Dump as much electrical power ability within Germany, and move out to border states. They are helping to make wind and solar power for the moment look great. Course, locals are now a bit hostile over the ever-growing windmill situation. You drive from Kaiserslautern to Mainz, and there’s around three hundred of these windmills across the countryside.

The gut feeling by 2030? As the nuke plants shut down, and more power has to be bought from outside sources....the prices will double within a short period of time (maybe less than five years). The power companies will have guessed right, and France, Poland, and Czech will benefit from taxing the power that is sold to the Germans. Everyone benefits...except the Germans. But they will be happy not to have dangerous nuke power....like those Japanese guys.

How will you afford $400 a month for electrical? (without AC, mind you). That’s the curious question in the end. I think the candle market will take off, and guys will be on street corners in the afternoons....selling two or three candles to make it through the evening. Silly, but it’s the way of “saving” their precious land.


17 posted on 09/06/2013 9:59:18 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Balding_Eagle
Without the environazi’s ( and there are a few Freeper enviro-nazis too, you know who you are) it would be half, or about 5 cents per KWH.
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Germany's rates, 3x ours, is where the environazi's (including the Freepers aforementioned) are taking all of us.

The difference is: in Germany, the enviro-nazis are actual Nazis.

18 posted on 09/06/2013 10:07:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

This is why either the TEA Party takes over the GOP or the GOP dies and a new party rises. There are issue after issue that the GOP can capitalize on, but they don’t.

We should be skimming a significant portion of the urban vote, but it goes nearly all Democrat.

I wonder if the Clintons’ are still using the FBI files of long ago or if the NSA, like the IRS and the entire government apparatus, is simply an extension of the DNC.

Who knows what information they hold. The Obama Administration was aware from the beginning that they were radicals with a radically anti-American agenda. They came expecting a revolution and the GOP came expecting business as usual.

We need smart street fighting politicians who get it and will go to the mat with it. Not Lifers in loafers.

This cycle it’s been Rand and Cruz on the national level with a host of solid GOP governors and statehouses leading the charge at the state and local level.


30 posted on 09/09/2013 7:10:23 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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