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Top climate scientists admit global warming forecasts were wrong
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Posted on 09/15/2013 9:20:46 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Top climate scientists admit global warming forecasts were wrong

Top climate scientists have admitted that their global warming forecasts are wrong and world is not heating at the rate they claimed it was in a key report.

By Hayley Dixon

3:45PM BST 15 Sep 2013

A leaked draft of a report by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is understood to concede that the computer predictions for global warming and the effects of carbon emissions have been proved to be inaccurate.

The report, to be published later this month, is a six year assessment which is seen as the gospel of climate science and is cited to justify fuel taxes and subsidies for renewable energy.

The “summary for policymakers” of the report, seen by the Mail on Sunday, states that the world is warming at a rate of 0.12C per decade since 1951, compared to a prediction of 1.3C per decade in their last assessment published in 2007.

Other admission in the latest document include that forecast computers may not have taken enough notice of natural variability in the climate, therefore exaggerating the effect of increased carbon emissions on world temperatures.

The governments which fund the IPCC have tabled 1,800 questions in relation to the report.

One of the central issues is believed to be why the IPCC failed to account for the “pause” in global warming, which they admit that they did not predict in their computer models. Since 1997, world average temperatures have not shown any statistically significant increase.

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To: Sub-Driver
Now if they'd just concede that increased CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere follow warming trends and are not the cause; and that human activity has nothing to do with "climate change."

They never will, of course, because the U.N.'s blaming capitalism for climate change has always been a political ploy, not a scientific one. It was designed to scare the sheeple into accepting global socialist control and wealth redistribution run by the U.N. The U.N. has been a Communist project from the outset. As Cliff Kinkaid wrote some years ago in Accuracy in Media:

"On every October 24 since he’s been President, George W. Bush has issued a proclamation recognizing 'United Nations Day.' Typically, Bush calls upon the people of the United States 'to observe this day with appropriate programs and activities.' The appropriate thing to do would be to acknowledge the basic truth that communist spy and State Department official Alger Hiss laid the groundwork for the U.N. and became its first acting secretary-general, causing it to be dubbed 'the house that Hiss built.' Hiss also advised President Franklin Roosevelt at the Yalta conference, which defined post-World War II Europe and betrayed Eastern European nations to Soviet control.

21 posted on 09/15/2013 9:50:47 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: ExSoldier

Ping.


22 posted on 09/15/2013 9:51:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Gaffer

Algore on suicide watch?


23 posted on 09/15/2013 9:53:33 AM PDT by RW_Whacko
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To: Sub-Driver

So, scientifically speaking of course, when does a “pause” become a “halt”?


24 posted on 09/15/2013 9:56:33 AM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: Bob
I’d like to see the thermometer that measures the temperature on the entire earth at a precision of hundredths of a degree.

I'm not worried about that. When dealing with averages, you can easily get resolutions of 0.01 degree.

Either the paper posted it wrongly, and then updated the website (without giving it a new update date), or Sub-Driver changed the figure in posting it here.

I'm inclined to favor the former explanation, but we need to deal in facts.

25 posted on 09/15/2013 9:57:33 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: 5by5; Jack Hydrazine

And its also significant that the quoted experts admit that there were warming periods hundreds of years ago that are equal to what we’ve seen now THEREFORE not caused by carbon emissions.


26 posted on 09/15/2013 9:58:14 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Sub-Driver

You don’t say.

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
Winston Churchill


27 posted on 09/15/2013 9:59:26 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Sub-Driver

Big news,....thanks!


28 posted on 09/15/2013 10:00:04 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Sept 9, 2013 -- What a day of reversals!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Duh, I’m Tennessee Tuxedo!


29 posted on 09/15/2013 10:00:34 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: staytrue
"I clicked to the original article and it differs from your post.

it says.

“warming at a rate of 0.12C per decade since 1951, compared to a prediction of 0.13C per decade in their last assessment published in 2007. “

That's a huge difference from what the excerpt claimed. I hope it was just a typo and not a deliberate falsification.
30 posted on 09/15/2013 10:01:53 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Bob

When you’re making stuff up, you may as well make up orders of precision while you’re at it. In other words, I say it’s all just fabrication.

Still would like to hear an explanation from the OP as to the reason for numerical error or changes from original article.


31 posted on 09/15/2013 10:03:28 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Sub-Driver

Climate Scientist must be a phony degree.


32 posted on 09/15/2013 10:03:28 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: RW_Whacko
I hope the hell so.

Damn near a billionaire after discovering the greatest scam in the world. Parlayed his limited fame, coupled that with a bloated madness and effrontery that would choke a bull, succumbed to the cheeseburger imperative and carbon credits, futures and taxes (the single most brilliant thieving scheming crime EVER), and found a way to rid himself of an old wife in favor of any hotel maid/masseuse chick he could corner all in one fell swoop?

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant....Wrong? Yes, Brilliant? Yes.

33 posted on 09/15/2013 10:07:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sub-Driver

Dang, no angry victim Gaia to pimp for Gore.


34 posted on 09/15/2013 10:07:18 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: sasquatch
How is the bamster going to “walk his position back”?

He'll just make the LSM vermin that provides him with the most cover an apparatchik, thereby encouraging the rest of the lemmings to parrot the bile that flows non-stop from himself and his sycophants.

35 posted on 09/15/2013 10:14:11 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: RW_Whacko
Algore on suicide watch?

Why? He rode that wave better than anyone, becoming a multi multi millionare. He can retire to his utility gobbling mansion and laugh at us the rest of his life.

36 posted on 09/15/2013 10:14:49 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: sgtyork

It was warmer 9,000 years ago than it is today!

See the various graphs I’ve posted on my profile page.


37 posted on 09/15/2013 10:15:30 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Sub-Driver
...report by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is understood to concede that the computer predictions for global warming and the effects of carbon emissions have been proved to be inaccurate.

I always tell libtards that almost all of the "evidence" for global warming is models derived from computer predictions....

That is not science...

They cannot get that though their wooden heads...

38 posted on 09/15/2013 10:19:59 AM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: Sub-Driver

You reward failure often in science. You can learn much from failure in science.

Your question should be will they now quit awarding funds for politics rather than science. Why should the NSF ect be funding politics. Will these “scientists” quit being political activists and start being scientists.


39 posted on 09/15/2013 10:33:14 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Sub-Driver
Top climate scientists admit global warming forecasts were wrong

Gee whiz, really?

The predictions were predictably wrong because they were part of advancing a leftist political agenda. The so-called scientists involved should be ashamed of themselves.

40 posted on 09/15/2013 10:33:49 AM PDT by Yardstick
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