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To: Jim Robinson

I worked in secure areas for 30 years, military and contractor. I thought physical security became much too lax, beginning in about 1992. A product of the end of the Cold War, I suppose.


9 posted on 09/16/2013 2:02:22 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr

In 92 when SAC went away and the fighter jocks took control the AF security and training for nukes went to hell has we’ve witnessed in the last few years.

The navy, except for places like sub bases have never seemed too secure. Back in the early 80s I spent a week TDY at the Navy Yard and it was easy to get in and out, not at all secure based on what I was used to.

Civilian guards came about over the last 10 or so years. Some seem good, some not so much but it seems that I see more Airmen at the gates of Offutt than I do civilians these days.


26 posted on 09/16/2013 2:23:02 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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In 92 when SAC went away and the fighter jocks took control the AF security and training for nukes went to hell has we’ve witnessed in the last few years.

The navy, except for places like sub bases have never seemed too secure. Back in the early 80s I spent a week TDY at the Navy Yard and it was easy to get in and out, not at all secure based on what I was used to.

Civilian guards came about over the last 10 or so years. Some seem good, some not so much but it seems that I see more Airmen at the gates of Offutt than I do civilians these days.


27 posted on 09/16/2013 2:23:10 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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Went to the USMC training base in 2004, could not get in without the car being searched, presenting your actual photo ID removed from your wallet, etc. Same thing at Walter Reed in 2004-2005, as well as other DC federal facilities, and Bethesda in Maryland. All of them had guards in the military, I assume they were armed. All had those funky concrete barriers that required a person to drive 10 mph or less to get through them. I did not realize this was no longer the protocol after 9-11.


37 posted on 09/16/2013 2:36:18 PM PDT by NEMDF
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