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Driverless cars coming but consumers not ready
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Posted on 09/25/2013 5:26:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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I am certain that the lawyers are ready. The failures of these systems will likely be spectacular, and costly for the manufacturers. I work in the aircraft system certification business, and the auto industry isn’t nearly ready to handle the legal side of the autonomous vehicle system market.


21 posted on 09/25/2013 5:55:26 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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As a motorcyclist, I am not happy about being put at risk of being run over by a driverless car.

You'll probably be safer with those than with somebody who "didn't see you".

22 posted on 09/25/2013 5:55:36 AM PDT by glorgau
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What traffic congestion? There is no traffic congestion where I live.

In fact, I’d venture to say that the overwhelming majority of the roadway miles in the U.S. do not have traffic congestion.


23 posted on 09/25/2013 5:57:29 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Jesus, take the wheel...


24 posted on 09/25/2013 5:59:48 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Red in Blue PA

When I was a kid “Knight Rider” was big but I always thought the technology of a car that drove itself was wasted in a trans am. I mean, seriously, you have to sit right there in the drivers seat anyway, you might as well drive. Now if they put it in an RV I was on board with that. “KITT, drive me to school. I’ll be in the shower.”


25 posted on 09/25/2013 6:03:51 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Officer: "Chief, so far I've got 4 drivers playing the new Grand Theft Auto, 5 drivers watching porn movies, and the three moms putting on make-up and texting, three seniors napping, and 7 drunk drivers insisting they never heard the car shouting "Mayday! Mayday! Take control!"

"Oh, and the lead car dash cam shows three deer appearing suddenly out of the blizzard.

"Sir, how do you want me to write this up?

26 posted on 09/25/2013 6:08:54 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The technology might be ready, but the question of liability will never allow it to become mainstream. When the driverless car gets into an accident, and it will, who is liable - the passenger? the owner? the manufacturer? the software company? IMHO, insurance will be impossible to get on a driverless car.


27 posted on 09/25/2013 6:10:11 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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As long as there is a on and off switch I can't wait, there are so many ways that this will help, long trips, night driving, commuter driving at rush hour, when you have had a little too much to drink, when you are sick, when you want to catch up on sleep and espicially if you are too old to drive you can still have your mobility.
28 posted on 09/25/2013 6:11:20 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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I can imagine a time when those driverless cars get linked into the local speed ordinances and frustrated drivers start hacking the system because it’s just taking too long.


29 posted on 09/25/2013 6:21:01 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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And the cops will be waiting. They might even electronically lower the limit near their favorite speed traps ... I think I have a SF story to write here.


30 posted on 09/25/2013 6:22:20 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Travis McGee

ala the movie Minority Report


31 posted on 09/25/2013 6:26:14 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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That, and cyber terrorists can kill tons of folks in large cites with carefully orchestrated mass collisions.


32 posted on 09/25/2013 6:31:38 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I believe that an autonomous vehicle could be trained to do an excellent job of repetitive tasks, like commuting.


33 posted on 09/25/2013 6:32:44 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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"The course involved a 96 kilometres (60 mi) urban area course, to be completed in less than 6 hours.

Rules included obeying all traffic regulations while negotiating with other traffic and obstacles and merging into traffic.

While the 2004 and 2005 events were more physically challenging for the vehicles, the robots operated in isolation and did not encounter other vehicles on the course, the Urban Challenge required designers to build vehicles able to obey all traffic laws while they detect and avoid other robots on the course. This is a particular challenge for vehicle software, as vehicles must make "intelligent" decisions in real time based on the actions of other vehicles.

Other than previous autonomous vehicle efforts that focused on structured situations such as highway driving with little interaction between the vehicles, this competition operated in a more cluttered urban environment and required the cars to perform sophisticated interactions with each other, such as maintaining precedence at a 4-way stop intersection.[4]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge_%282007%29

34 posted on 09/25/2013 6:35:58 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t see these being practical on a large scale unless we have designated lanes or even roadways on which only driverless vehicles are allowed and on which manual operation is prohibited.

My observations of traffic congestion is that, while some is caused by human error in driving, most of it is caused by poor design leading to insufficient capacity or to road construction. Taking the driver out of the equation doesn’t do diddly if there isn’t enough road for all the vehicles who want to travel, or if the exits are saturated into the lanes because the destinations can’t process the offcoming traffic.


35 posted on 09/25/2013 6:36:14 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

What could possibly go wrong?


36 posted on 09/25/2013 6:36:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Great news. We get ever closer to the day forecast many years ago when machines will do everything for people. Just thing of it...machines will wake you up, feed you, wash you, dress you, take you out of your abode, put you in your vehicle. They’ll not only drive your car for you, they’ll do everything else. Including thinking for you. Isn’t it wonderful!!! (snicker)


37 posted on 09/25/2013 6:42:58 AM PDT by driftless2
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just thinK of it ...not just thing of it.


38 posted on 09/25/2013 6:44:56 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Red in Blue PA

Driving = Freedom. No thank you. I would rather have the technology guide you with warnings, etc. But I have seen computers, cars and car sensors fail way too many times to trust them with my life.


39 posted on 09/25/2013 6:50:13 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Red in Blue PA

Other than for limited government, commercial and special passenger needs, I don’t think this will be particularly successful.

A good analogy is the A-10 Warthog aircraft and combat drone aircraft. The reason so many A-10s survived unbelievable damage in combat was because their pilots were very skilled, and could feel where problems were and adjust for them. Remote pilots and computers just could not do it as fast or well.

But, they explained, the combat drones were “expendable”...

And being “expendable”, while it might work in a drone car, facing off against other drone cars, is not something you might want in a drone-driven passenger car, facing off against unpredictable human driven cars.


40 posted on 09/25/2013 7:10:01 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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