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Obamacare's Implementation Threatens A Golden Age For The Healing Arts
Forbes ^ | October 6, 2013 | By Dr. Ben Carson & Rep. Michael Burgess

Posted on 10/06/2013 7:47:29 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Medical practice and healthcare policy are on a collision course. From an intellectual perspective, we are entering a golden age of the healing arts. The full promise of genomic medicine informing diagnosis and treatment beckons from just over the horizon. Younger physicians, just entering practice, have the ability to alleviate human suffering that no generation of doctors has ever previously known.

But not so fast.

The administration of health care policy, and ultimately dollars, are also undergoing a generational shift. But this shift is founded on some of the most irrational politics this country has ever seen. Future generations observing the political changes of the past five years will invariably say, “what were they thinking?”

Obamacare represents a giant leap toward European-style socialism. If we can agree as a nation that that is what we truly want, let’s stop pretending to be a nation that holds the freedoms of its citizens’ in the highest regard. If on the other hand, we are truly a nation for, of and by the people, the people cannot be passive and expect freedom to last.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; bencarson; obamacare; rinocare; socialism
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Congressman Michael Burgess represents the 26th District of Texas. He serves on the Rules Committee and Energy and Commerce Committee.

Dr. Ben Carson is an emeritus professor of neurosurgery, oncology, plastic surgery, and pediatrics at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.

1 posted on 10/06/2013 7:47:29 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama is on track to surpass any criminal humanity has ever seen.


2 posted on 10/06/2013 7:55:15 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sign the petition to draft Ben Carson to run for President. He has said he would run if it’s clear enough people want him to. Just having him in the running will keep things very interesting......


3 posted on 10/06/2013 8:21:18 AM PDT by moonhawk (Free Republic: Show prep for Rush Limbaugh.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Look at just breast cancer survival rates in the UK with their socialized medicine system... "five-year survival rates for all forms of the disease - including the most advanced - stand at 85 per cent in the U.S and just under 74 per cent in the UK." One reason is that in the UK mammograms start at age 50 rather than age 40 as in the US and are done every three years rather than annually or every two years as in the US. This is the same "cost saving" standard for mammograms advocated by Obmacare bean counters. Source article
4 posted on 10/06/2013 8:21:40 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As with former draconian attempts to regulate and control what people do, this travesty will generate a black market for medical procedures. What form it takes has yet to be seen, but I reckon there will be doctors involved. Watch for it, if the ACA is not gutted and finally stopped, there will be a black market.


5 posted on 10/06/2013 8:25:29 AM PDT by nobdysfool (If the Federal government was in charge of the Sahara, there would be a shortage of sand....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is a key point. Take care of your own health and you don’t need them at all. The guvmint or doctors of sllopsthic medicine

Much of western medicine is vaccinate with poison. Drug everything and then cut cut cut

The Chinese and many other types of medicine which treat the whole not symptoms can be very much more effective.

Just eating well excercising and what not can do wonders

There’s lots of things the ‘man’ won’t tell you either.

Like. 1. Cleansing. Internal. Fasting. There’s much to this
You can remove all kinds of crap this way

2. Inversion. Hanging upside down. Key for back and system health

3 colloidal silver. You can make it for fee and NEVER get sick again

Bet your doctor never mentioned any of these or poo poohs them

And folks with babies. Do not vaccinate ! Wait until their at least two if you must. Don’t poison them to try and protect them !

Remember that the system. Even BEFORE obsmacare is designed to make money. Not cure you for free or make it so you don’t need them

And when you do need them. Health insurance is NOT care!


6 posted on 10/06/2013 9:09:40 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserves)
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7 posted on 10/06/2013 9:16:28 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It isn’t rocket science folks. For decades big pharma and the mainstream medical community have been trying to thwart competition from the nutritional solutions, supplement, healthy lifestyle and drug-free advocates. Making medical treatment be “covered” and pharmaceuticals with small enough co-pays is just another way to beat the competition and have a monopoly over “cures”.


8 posted on 10/06/2013 9:24:59 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

True. If ins would cover gym membership, you wouldn’t need those blood pressure meds. Some plans do pay for the gym, but with BrackCare, who knows?


9 posted on 10/06/2013 9:37:01 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Truthoverpower
1. Cleansing. Internal. Fasting. There’s much to this You can remove all kinds of crap this way

2. Inversion. Hanging upside down. Key for back and system health

3 colloidal silver. You can make it for fee and NEVER get sick again

Fasting is great for religious purposes and CS can be effective for external infections. The rest is malarky.

10 posted on 10/06/2013 9:45:03 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Veto!

Hi, Veto! Some forms of hypertension have nothing to do with exercise or lack thereof, like mine.


11 posted on 10/06/2013 9:47:37 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Truthoverpower

Colloidal silver IS effective. I know someone who has successfully battled internal yeast infections with it.

But be careful if you have the tendency to think that “if a little is good, then a lot will be better.” People who do that turn blue. It causes a kind of internal tattooing because silver is a heavy metal, and is very hard if not impossible to get rid of.


12 posted on 10/06/2013 9:51:25 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Veto!
If ins. would cover gym membership...

Insurance SHOULDN'T cover gym memberships, tests, doctor visits, counseling sessions, pharmaceuticals etc. It should only cover catastrophic accidents and diseases, with a deductible of at least $2000. It's up to people to learn about and make healthy lifestyle choices for themselves. The competition for their business will keep prices down, whereas "it's insured" destroys scrutiny and competition.

FWIW, I don't think of gyms as being healthy. Why would I want to share equipment and mats with other people's sweat and germs...yuck. Should the government insurance pay for my sneakers because walking is my exercise of choice?

13 posted on 10/06/2013 10:10:43 AM PDT by grania
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To: TEXOKIE

Hello. Silver ions are execellnt but compounds can turn you blue black and
Are not effective.

The Feds tried for years to suppress it through 1980s and 1990s. But now silver is mandated in 10000 + medical products including eye treatments and every hvac filter in hospitals

The key is using distiller water only and not letting the process go too long

Unless you have one of them 300$ units that calcs ppm. Whereas I use 3 9v batteries. ; )

BTW. Did you know you can charge non rechargeable batteries?

They charge in like 15 min vs 12 hrs. But you have to do it more often. AND watch the voltage if you leave them too long they self destruct and leak acid

Still I’ve been using a regular set of 1.5v AA batteries in my radio for like 1 yr everyday now.

Us engineers will mess with anything. ; )


14 posted on 10/06/2013 10:12:54 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserves)
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To: Veto!

Forget the gym. Bike walk swim. Outdoors. That’s the key. It’s free and you get fresh air and nature to boot!

Cheers !


15 posted on 10/06/2013 10:14:20 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserves)
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To: Truthoverpower
Even befoe obamacare the system was designed to make money

And the best way to do that is to keep people hooked on pharmaceuticals and scare us into constant testing, vaccinations, screenings etc. Do doctors even give people a 'lifestyle" solution anymore, one that avoids their poisons?

16 posted on 10/06/2013 10:15:24 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Insurance SHOULDN’T cover gym memberships, tests, doctor visits, counseling sessions, pharmaceuticals etc.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
“Always” good to use Auto insurance as a guide.

You DON’T NEED to purchase vehicle insurance if you don’t own a vehicle.
IF YOU drive a vehicle owned by someone else, YOU don’t need vehicle insurance.
The higher deductible you choose, the lower your rates. The better driver you are, the lower the rates. The less you ‘USE’ the policy, the lower the rates.

If one were to use vehicle insurance to purchase oil, buy gasoline or do normal maintenance, your premiums would skyrocket.

We got to the point that if one had ‘Medical insurance’ from the job, if you had a cold or even just a fever, they would pull out the card.
The Dr or Hospital ER don’t care because YOU don’t care and if you complain about a charge the answer from BOTH sides is more than likely to be “Don’t worry about it! You aren’t paying for it” And as long as the ‘average bear’ believes that line, we will never be out of the woods and schemes - designed to be ‘fair’ as in Hillary care/Obama care, FREE medical etc etc etc - are inevitable.

If you were able to use your auto insurance to purchase gasoline or get an oil change, the Insurance Co would be paying 10 a gal for gas and 100 for oil changes.....
Money doesn’t come out of YOUR pocket, you don’t care.

Along the same lines as if Business would(COULD) refuse to be the Governments tax collectors and not withhold taxes, making the earner write that extra check out of HIS bottom line, the revolt would be coming quickly....
And that just from those that would choose to write the check, we won’t even go into those that won’t even think of writing the check....


17 posted on 10/06/2013 10:26:14 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: grania

No of course not. Maybe lip service

. But I see the docs and modern medicine as excellent for wHat it is

If I break bones ! For that they are great

Otherwise I avoid hospitals and the doc like the plague and tell others to do the same.

Particularly on the vaccine thing since I have small kids and am in that crowd.

They are RELENTLESS on that and otherwise perfectly nice people
Will attack you on the ‘herd’ mentality argument

Fortunately I have videos and LOTS of facts from real people to back me up if it ever gets that far. And they really think they’re a do gooder

Bottom line : why would you inject tons of foreign DNA from known pathogens along with according adjuncts and preservatives , from unknown sources, into a baby with NO developed immune system in the HOPE that it MIGHT give them a leg up against diseases that are simply uncommon at worst ?
The regular influenza is the most likely to get and that vaccine is legendary for causing problems in adults and not working

If you want to subject your baby to that. You’re STUPID

As an adult at least it won’t destroy your mind forever and ruin your life ( hopefully)


18 posted on 10/06/2013 10:27:36 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserves)
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To: nobdysfool

“Black market for medical attention”. I think it’s far worse than that. Obamacare isn’t about health care, it’s about health access. It’s going to insure that those in power have access to dwindling number of doctors. The rest of us can see nurse practitioners and physician assistants, many of whom are good, but when demand for services exceeds supply of doctors, np’s and pa’s, watch out!


19 posted on 10/06/2013 10:54:47 AM PDT by samsmom
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To: Truthoverpower

“3 colloidal silver. You can make it for fee and NEVER get sick again”

Colloidal silver is remarkable.

“Silver Makes Antibiotics Thousands of Times More Effective”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=silver-makes-antibiotics-thousands-of-times-more-effective

Still, it’s best not to overuse any medication.


20 posted on 10/06/2013 11:07:15 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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