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Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are
forbes ^ | 10/16/2013 | Avik Roy,

Posted on 10/16/2013 2:08:31 PM PDT by tobyhill

A growing consensus of IT experts, outside and inside the government, have figured out a principal reason why the website for Obamacare’s federally-sponsored insurance exchange is crashing. Healthcare.gov forces you to create an account and enter detailed personal information before you can start shopping. This, in turn, creates a massive traffic bottleneck, as the government verifies your information and decides whether or not you’re eligible for subsidies. HHS bureaucrats knew this would make the website run more slowly. But they were more afraid that letting people see the underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans would scare people away.

HHS didn’t want users to see Obamacare’s true costs

“Healthcare.gov was initially going to include an option to browse before registering,” report Christopher Weaver and Louise Radnofsky in the Wall Street Journal. “But that tool was delayed, people familiar with the situation said.” Why was it delayed? “An HHS spokeswoman said the agency wanted to ensure that users were aware of their eligibility for subsidies that could help pay for coverage, before they started seeing the prices of policies.” (Emphasis added.)

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1 posted on 10/16/2013 2:08:31 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
There are people who would welcome inexpensive health care that is unavailable.

There are people who would welcome expensive health care that is available.

We are about to get the best of both worlds:

Expensive health care that is unavailable. sigh

2 posted on 10/16/2013 2:12:19 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT! : $70 TRILLION unfunded...)
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To: tobyhill
I reckon I should plan on helping them with their problem.
If they don't want me to know how much ObamaCare might cost then I just won't go to the website at all.
Problem solved.
3 posted on 10/16/2013 2:12:35 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: tobyhill

“You’ve got to sign up before you can see it” - Kathleen Sebelius /sarc


4 posted on 10/16/2013 2:13:13 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: tobyhill

0bamacare website makes damn sure you enter all of your personal information FIRST (and for keeps) before it starts having glitches.


5 posted on 10/16/2013 2:14:15 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: tobyhill

Now that Obama has got what he wants, his dictatorship, he can release the insurance rates. Watch the website start working fine.

But nobody will be talking about the rates. Congress will take that off the front pages by “working” with him on immigration reform.


6 posted on 10/16/2013 2:15:46 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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7 posted on 10/16/2013 2:15:52 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: tobyhill

No kidding.


8 posted on 10/16/2013 2:18:49 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: tobyhill

9 posted on 10/16/2013 2:21:48 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

literally.


10 posted on 10/16/2013 2:21:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Congress will take that off the front pages by “working” with him on immigration reform.

I don't think so.

Obama won't get even to first base on immigration because he has no idea how to lead.

You can't get it done by going off to a photo op in a soup kitchen or playing golf.

11 posted on 10/16/2013 2:26:12 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Amagi

I am with you. I will help, as well, by not going to the site at all. (I have a liberal relative who spieled on facebook on 9/30 about how she was so excited that she was going to get to sign up for affordable health insurance the next day... then last week said something about having to try to get that done this week, then this week saying that she has been spending hours and hours on a frustrating problem that she does not wish to discuss.... ) [snicker]


12 posted on 10/16/2013 2:26:27 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
0bamacare website makes damn sure you enter all of your personal information FIRST (and for keeps) before it starts having glitches.

What if people sign up using false information?

What if illegals sign up using false social security numbers?

I am sure they have all those bugs figured in.

Too bad we couldn't go all Cloward-Piven on their @$$e$.

13 posted on 10/16/2013 2:27:42 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: tobyhill

So what if you access the system using Tor, plug in some random name, SSN and bogus other required info? Maybe use your liberal friend’s address and last name. It sounds like the system could be dumb enough that you get registered.


14 posted on 10/16/2013 2:37:01 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Slyfox

They use an outside (that means it’ll work) verification system provided by experian.


15 posted on 10/16/2013 2:40:12 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: tobyhill

As long as they know before the 2014 election.


16 posted on 10/16/2013 2:41:53 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

no gubmint program is ever a failure.

it just ‘underperforms’ due to being ‘underfunded’.


17 posted on 10/16/2013 2:53:58 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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Taxpayers were ripped off a staggering $634 million (that we know of) for setting-up the amateurish Obamacare sign-up web site----than that of LinkedIn and Spotify combined-----the site already has been shut down once for repairs....and problems persist.

INCONVENIENT FACTOID one story surfaced last week that the same crew that got the contract for the ObamaCare website were former data/media/social media people from the Obama campaign.

INCONVENIENT FACTOID Toni Townes-Whitley, Senior Vice President at CGI Federal for Civilian Agency programs, is Princeton Class of 1985---same dumbed-down class as Michelle Obama. Both are members of Association of Black Princeton Alumni.

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A GLIMPSE OF WHAT'S TO COME A November 30, 2012 Cato.com report indicated the Insurance Exchanges will cost Twice What it Costs to Administer Medicare (NOT what the WH twit told Americans).

ONE STATE'S LAUNCH--- In March 2013 CATO.COM reported "The Cost to Launch the California Health Insurance Exchange is $910 million".

So far (2012) California has received $910 million in federal grants to launch its new health insurance exchange under the Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare"). The California exchange, "Covered California," has so far awarded a $183 million contract to Accenture to build the website, enrollment, and eligibility system and another $174 million to operate the exchange for four years.

The state will also spend $250 million on a two-year marketing campaign. By comparison California Senator Barbara Boxer spent $28 million on her 2010 statewide reelection campaign while her challenger spent another $22 million.

The most recent installment of the $910 million in federal money was a $674 million grant. The exchange's executive director noted that was less than the $706 million he had asked for. "The feds reduced the 2014 potential payment for outreach and enrollment by about $30 million," he said. "But we think we have enough resources on hand to do the biggest outreach that I have ever seen."

For additional perspective....private insurance marketing site, Esurance sells not only health insurance but also things like homeowners and auto insurance across the country......author put his zip code into their system along with his age, they offered him 87 different health plans from all the big players in my area.

Now granted, the new health insurance exchanges are more complex because they have to interface with Medicaid and the IRS as well as calculate subsidies. But the order of magnitude difference in what it cost to launch esurance compared to the California exchange is pretty big.

Privately funded Esurance began its multi-product national web business in 1998 with an initial $5.5 million round of venture fund investment in 1999 and a second round of $34 million a few months later.

The start-up experience of other major web companies is also instructive. Facebook received $13.7 million to launch in 2005. eBay was founded in 1995 and received its first venture money in 1997––$6.7 million.

Even doubling these private investments for inflation still leaves quite a gap.

SOURCE http://www.cato.org/blog/californias-obamacare-exchange-costs-56-times-more-launch-facebook

18 posted on 10/16/2013 3:13:19 PM PDT by Liz
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To: tobyhill

Just curious .. don’t know the answer.
How many corporations have gotten the exemption from Obama .. particularly those who are Media or have Media in their group?


19 posted on 10/16/2013 3:21:11 PM PDT by BilLies ("Will none rid me of this lying bastard ?")
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To: tobyhill

like amazon or most other online merchandising- you have to get everything entered before they show you tax and shipping, I suppose because they imagine that if you got that far, you’ll hit the enter key.

I don’t do it.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 3:37:27 PM PDT by 4buttons
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