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Trial Of Soldier (FREEPER) Chris Grisham, Who Carried AR-15 Rifle On Public Street, Goes To Jury
Opposing Views ^ | 10/18/2013 | By Jonathan Vankin

Posted on 10/17/2013 1:16:18 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd
A few weeks after this hit the news I saw a guy marching down the highway in my county, holding aloft a a "Don't Tread on Me" flag, with a weapon from the AR-15 family slung over his back.

Never saw anything about it on the news, so either nobody called the cops, or nothing untoward happened when they visited with him.

221 posted on 10/18/2013 2:55:06 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Dead Corpse

bump


222 posted on 10/18/2013 2:55:53 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Repeal The 17th

See post 216.


223 posted on 10/18/2013 2:58:07 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

bbell has it posted over here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3080731/posts


224 posted on 10/18/2013 2:59:36 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It would interesting to the split in the jury. I believe it takes two or more
to hang a six person jury....


225 posted on 10/18/2013 3:00:13 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport

Keep in mind the charge was obstructing or resisting and not for lawfully carrying.

So - taking the strict letter of the law to the extreme - he could be technically found guilty.

Do you think the DA will retry? I don’t think so.


226 posted on 10/18/2013 3:06:00 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes I know that the weapon wasn’t the basis of the charge.
He’ll probably not be retried, imo. I suspect with all the
attention that has been given to the case the DA will let
it lie.


227 posted on 10/18/2013 3:09:22 PM PDT by deport
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thanks!


228 posted on 10/18/2013 3:09:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thanks for the update ping.


229 posted on 10/18/2013 3:10:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: deport

IMO the DA already extracted a pound of flesh (and more!) from Grisham. He sent a clear message.

This is not the first time Grisham has been at the center of controversry. And I’m guessing it won’t be the last.


230 posted on 10/18/2013 3:12:45 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I hope he can get out of military without ruining his many years of service.
I know things can get tough and hard to take sometimes.

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/stalking-soldier-arrested-disarmed-by-texas-police-some-facts-opinion-and-analysis/Page-2.htm


231 posted on 10/18/2013 3:21:50 PM PDT by deport
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Vet: That’s quite a beat down you gave that guy. I almost felt sorry for him... almost...


232 posted on 10/18/2013 3:23:03 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: BBell

You chose to be a serf who cowers to the lords of the manor. We choose to be free men.


233 posted on 10/18/2013 3:29:56 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: Dead Corpse

“I saw a police officer interfering with the free exercise of personal liberty by a citizen.”

BINGO!! Very well said!


234 posted on 10/18/2013 3:33:59 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Post 216.

Back Atcha......Post 114 and Post 176

235 posted on 10/18/2013 3:39:19 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (a)
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To: BBell
I didn’t run for the tall grass. It’s just you can’t argue with an idiot.

Maybe that's why you're being ignored by the rest of us........

236 posted on 10/18/2013 3:46:39 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (a)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Question: When securing a scene

"Securing a scene" is a lawful response to an alleged crime that has just been committed...........

Unfortunately for you bro, there was no crime committed here...........as we keep telling you over and over and over...ad nauseum.

But keep it up, we need you for our October poster boy for the new "stupid of the month" calendar.

237 posted on 10/18/2013 3:53:04 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (a)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Grisham could have gone to his grave being 100 percent right - but also 100 percent dead.

And if my aunt had balls, she would have been my uncle. At least she wouldn't have been accosted by an obnoxious, over zealous cop who has absolutely no knowledge of the constitutional rights of the people he is paid to protect.....

238 posted on 10/18/2013 3:59:37 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (a)
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To: BBell; 101stAirborneVet
It’s simple. His attitude. Attitude is everything and his attitude towards the cops, who were responding to a call, was very confrontational.

Here is a link to a video of a completely different case. Tell me what you think about this woman's "attitude."

The Freerepublic thread is here. The link is in the thread.

Border check point officer vs young woman in car..'it's none of your business'

Note... the YouTube video has been taken down. I hope the LiveLeak video is still active. It really is worth watching, as this woman is a 20-something year old with her husband videotaping the encounter. She is hardly the confontational type, and you can hear her nervousness in her wavering voice as she stands her ground.

In this case, the woman was stopped at an immigration checkpoint near the border, but on a normal USA road. What looks to be young border agents become arrogant with the woman when she refuses to let them search her car without any cause. They direct her to move to a "secondary holding area," and she refuses to leave the road, demanding to know why she's being detained.

The woman interpreted secondary holding as being detained, and asked if she was being detained or was free to go? She refused to be detained for the simple act of exercising her rights.

The question then becomes, back to your point, how much deference is a common citizen expected to give law enforcement? Would you agree, at least, that there is a minimum expectation that declining to give law enforcement permission to search is not de facto admission of guilt of something that can be used against a person immediately to hold them?

In this case, refusing to answer questions about where one is going with their legally carried gun is not de facto evidence of guilt of something that requires police hostility?

-PJ

239 posted on 10/18/2013 4:04:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Interesting.

Despite the annimosity upthread, thank you for the ping.


240 posted on 10/18/2013 5:23:19 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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