Skip to comments.Border check point officer vs young woman in car..'it's none of your business'
Posted on 08/28/2013 5:02:28 PM PDT by Dacula
Lady in a car is stopped at a US border checkpoint miles from the border. Stands her ground in the face of intrusive personal questions asked by a young officer.She's upset.Detained for 15 minutes.
Long video (nearly 15 minutes)
Can’t see the embedded video at your site (my fault). Is there a youtube version?
Sorry try this link
Don’t argue with a woman. They will wear you down every time.
This incident really has me occupied tonight.
The Supreme Court says that check points are ok, but detaining without cause is not valid.
Yes, we will!! lol
In the ‘new’ America, citizens are treated worse than non-citizens. She’s an extremist!
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I crossed into Canada two years ago - in my Canadian friend’s car, as his guest - showed my US pp - and the bitch at the border asked us to justify how we knew each other - and asked me if I had ever been arrested. When I said, “no”, she said -very aggressively - “not even when you were younger?” Again, I said no.
I have been traveling out of the US since early childhood, and that was the most gratitously unpleasant border crossing I’ve ever had - except for Bulgaria in communist days.
I suspect that she has an ex husband somewhere —
Very brave young woman. Even though she didn’t know all the legalese, she hung in there like a real patriot.
And for 15 minutes! AND she made them back down! We all could use her courage. Just DAMN!
This video proves it is illegal because they admitted on camera they cannot enforce their own so-called "policy" because it is unconstitutional-
STAND YOUR GROUND, GIRL!
Maybe. If so, she made good use of all that anger.
At 7:03, she has a cracked windshield.
My thought - They could have ‘made’ up any reason to detain her.
I don’t get it. I’ve take a semi truck through others and probably that same checkpoint lots of times and all I’ve gotten asked is “what country were you born in”.
One time on vacation with my family I went through at about 6:30 in the morning. Officer waved me through before I even got my window rolled down to talk to her.
Anyways when BP lies to a driver they need to not crack a smile doing it. Might help.
ah..the old cop ploy...”suspicious activity”...or the “ we are looking for a a vehicle similiar to yours” bs.......these old and lame schemes from these damn law dogs is SO OLD ...guess DPS was “holed” up...either at the donut stand or the brothel..credit to your tenacity dear lady...whoever you are...
And a warrant. If you don't authorize them to search, they have to get a warrant. Yes, they will hold you while they get a warrant and they will thrash your vehicle.
This woman just became my idol.
Border Patrol doesn’t need probable cause to stop and search any vehicle. All they need is for you to have crossed the border. They probably have some set of conditions, like within a few miles of the border on a road coming from the border, and they can just assume you crossed without witnessing it. Same with the Coast Guard and the 12-mile limit, by the way. Coming into a port from the ocean they can just assume you crossed the 12-mile limit.
That was scary! Kudos to the young gal for standing her ground................Times are a changing
Notice how the BP Supervisor tired to bully her when he first got there rather than asking his people what the problem was. When he asked them he found that the girl was right, they had no reason to detain her there. He should have asked first rather than trying to bully her. Good show gal
They cannot search a car without probable cause. They cannot take someone into custody without probable cause.
I did some googling and it seems there are people doing what this video shows and recording the incidents. In every one I found, DHS eventually gives up and waives them through.
“Yes, they will hold you while they get a warrant and they will thrash your vehicle.”
Usually they will make you wait while they bring out a drug-sniffing dog. The dog will usually find something that gives them probable cause to search.
I liked her standing up to them.
They should forcibly arrest her for resisting arrest.
The citizen video gambit—bane of the ignorant LEO.
The driver is in the wrong because she does not have the authority to judge authority of the law enforcement officers.
They obeyed the law by not allowing her to pass without being inspected.
She can refuse the inspection by waiting outside the traffic lane and not impeding the traffic of others.
She also didn’t have to drive into the inspection area.
More importantly, by being unreasonable but always self-justifying her actions and thinking, she places the liberty and freedom of other law abiding citizens at risk by those law enforcement officers not nearly as patient as those in the video.
I’m surprised that they did not pull out the bogus probable cause for drugs after the dogs went around the car. I do not trust the police anymore; most especially the Federal police agencies. What’s to stop them from planting ‘evidence’ at a checkpoint? Maybe some of these guys are looking for high end cars and hoping that some of these people are carrying a decent amount of cash to plunder. That could be drug money, don’t ya know.
These guys are beginning to resemble the Mexican federales.
What a waste of agency time and effort. And we have to pay for this crap!
If you study the law enforcement blogs, and I do, it will be revealed to you that “law enforcement” is highly concerned about two things:
1. Getting home alive at night.
2. Collecting a pension.
By assessing that data, you will realize that these “law enforcement” personnel have no interest in dying on a hilltop for the glory of obuma.
Years ago I was driving across Wyoming on a beautiful, clear day and I literally had the highway to myself. Not a car in sight until a police car crossed the median. I looked at my speedometer and, yes, I was just about 10 miles over the speed limit. I apologized profusely, signed the paperwork. Then he started to ask me - repeatedly - if wanted to go to the the station. Kinda freaked my out. I just kept saying no. I continued on my trip and mailed the ticket in that night.
The Title "Department of Homeland Security" alone makes me gag.
They should forcibly arrest her for resisting arrest.
The check points they have in Texas are miles from the Border. They check those they think looks suspicious. Some of them look like they’re portable.
I was driving from Eagle Pass to San Antonio and there is an illegal alien station on the highway there. There is not a lot of traffic on this road on weekdays. I pulled up behind a car that was stopped and the agents were talking to the dr4iver through the window.
After a couple of minutes waiting, the door opened and this very attractive woman in a relatively short skirt got out, opened her trunk and bent over to dig something out of the baggage in the trunk.
The two agents stood there watching her dig through the baggage as did I. I guess she found whatever they were looking for because they then let her travel on.
ICE operates a major highway checkpoint periodically on I-91 just south of the I-89 interchange in White River Junction, almost 100 miles south of the Canadian border. Who they expect to find there other than Americans is beyond me, and it appears to be a colossal waste of time and taxpayer money.
They used to be nicer...
a couple of years ago a dark faced foreign guy with an accent (not French) asked me personal questions...
I asked him why he was asking me questions I didnt think pertained to crossing into Canada...and that I could not answer him..
The jerk bully informed me that this was “his” country and he could stop me from coming into “his” country..that he got to decide..
He was obviously a new immigrant to Canada and appeared to hate Americans...or something..
I bit my tongue to avoid telling him that my Loyalist ancestors had founded “his” country so it was more mine than his...
What he was demanding was illegal and he knew it...
He was just a TSA wannabe...
I cried though when I got to the other side of the Rainbow Bridge..
I always enjoy going into Canada but that took away much of the fun for me...
However the US border guards coming back were polite and nice as usual...
But the 2 times Ive gone to Canada again since then Ive been nervous...
All American citizens have the authority to question the authority of any federal agent.
All federal agents are required to properly ID themselves, and they must also be able to state the specific federal statutes that authorize to perform the duties of their office.
A federal agent can be challenged with this, at any time.
Two photo ID’s may be requested, and the federal agent *MUST* comply.
All that aside, the *first* apparently-federal agent was in error by stating that “criminal activity was suspected.”
If he had reason to believe that to be true, he had to specifically state how “suspect criminal activity” applied to the lady in question, and in addition, he is *required* to state the federal statute that authorizes him to detain her because of his suspicion.
He’s already in trouble, because he cannot act -— he DOES NOT have the authority to act, by stating in general that there is “suspect criminal activity” as a matter of policy, being a gimmick by which to detain some person at random.
He is not good at knowing and stating the law.
She is not good at knowing the steps to question the authority of the federal agents.
Again, federal agents *are required* to be specific and be so, up front. When they are so, they help prevent confusion and mis-understandings.
A federal agent *MUST* state the statutes -— passing over a brochure is *NOT* fulfillment of the agent’s duties.
These “border agents” / “inspectors” are poorly trained.
Not just Mexican federales shaking down folks. There was a big case recently in San Francisco, where SF cops were convicted of planting evidence in order to confiscate money and assets. The cops went to prison. Unknown to them, there was video evidence against them. It's not the America we used to know.
So what? Isn't that what we've been demanding all these years? The only way to have real border security is to enforce the border everywhere. You asked for it. You got it. What's the problem?
“The driver is in the wrong because she does not have the authority to judge authority of the law enforcement officers.”
You lick their boots then you class A putz. The rest of us will attempt to preserve our liberty.
Keystone cops with guns and power.
“...very attractive woman in a relatively short skirt...opened her trunk and bent over...”
Yeah, I guess THEY found what they were looking for, alright. Pervs with badges.