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Border check point officer vs young woman in car..'it's none of your business'
LiveLeak ^ | 08/28/2013

Posted on 08/28/2013 5:02:28 PM PDT by Dacula

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To: Gay State Conservative
as long as they have probable cause.

And a warrant. If you don't authorize them to search, they have to get a warrant. Yes, they will hold you while they get a warrant and they will thrash your vehicle.

/johnny

21 posted on 08/28/2013 5:35:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dacula

This woman just became my idol.


22 posted on 08/28/2013 5:41:22 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Border Patrol doesn’t need probable cause to stop and search any vehicle. All they need is for you to have crossed the border. They probably have some set of conditions, like within a few miles of the border on a road coming from the border, and they can just assume you crossed without witnessing it. Same with the Coast Guard and the 12-mile limit, by the way. Coming into a port from the ocean they can just assume you crossed the 12-mile limit.


23 posted on 08/28/2013 5:45:46 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Dacula

That was scary! Kudos to the young gal for standing her ground................Times are a changing


24 posted on 08/28/2013 5:49:16 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Dacula

Notice how the BP Supervisor tired to bully her when he first got there rather than asking his people what the problem was. When he asked them he found that the girl was right, they had no reason to detain her there. He should have asked first rather than trying to bully her. Good show gal


25 posted on 08/28/2013 5:49:16 PM PDT by falcon99
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To: Dacula

I’m speechless


26 posted on 08/28/2013 5:52:28 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (The IRS--a softer Gestapo)
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To: Dacula
This was an interior immigration checkpoint, not a border/customs check. This area of the law is unclear. DHS statutes and regulations seem broader than the applicable constitutional law cases. The Supreme Court says you can be "briefly" detained to ask you about your immigration status. The DHS claim they can send you to "secondary" for more extensive interrogation seems to violate that case law unless they have an individualized reason to suspect you are not a legal US resident.

They cannot search a car without probable cause. They cannot take someone into custody without probable cause.

I did some googling and it seems there are people doing what this video shows and recording the incidents. In every one I found, DHS eventually gives up and waives them through.

27 posted on 08/28/2013 5:53:11 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Yes, they will hold you while they get a warrant and they will thrash your vehicle.”

Usually they will make you wait while they bring out a drug-sniffing dog. The dog will usually find something that gives them probable cause to search.


28 posted on 08/28/2013 5:55:32 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Dacula

I liked her standing up to them.


29 posted on 08/28/2013 5:56:50 PM PDT by rawhide
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They should forcibly arrest her for resisting arrest.


30 posted on 08/28/2013 5:59:03 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: colorado tanker

The citizen video gambit—bane of the ignorant LEO.


31 posted on 08/28/2013 5:59:31 PM PDT by Misterioso (Calling someone a fascist is routine these days. But try calling him a communist and you must duck.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Not funny.


32 posted on 08/28/2013 6:00:53 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Dacula

The driver is in the wrong because she does not have the authority to judge authority of the law enforcement officers.

They obeyed the law by not allowing her to pass without being inspected.

She can refuse the inspection by waiting outside the traffic lane and not impeding the traffic of others.

She also didn’t have to drive into the inspection area.

More importantly, by being unreasonable but always self-justifying her actions and thinking, she places the liberty and freedom of other law abiding citizens at risk by those law enforcement officers not nearly as patient as those in the video.


33 posted on 08/28/2013 6:10:17 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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I’m surprised that they did not pull out the bogus probable cause for drugs after the dogs went around the car. I do not trust the police anymore; most especially the Federal police agencies. What’s to stop them from planting ‘evidence’ at a checkpoint? Maybe some of these guys are looking for high end cars and hoping that some of these people are carrying a decent amount of cash to plunder. That could be drug money, don’t ya know.
These guys are beginning to resemble the Mexican federales.


34 posted on 08/28/2013 6:12:06 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Dacula

What a waste of agency time and effort. And we have to pay for this crap!


35 posted on 08/28/2013 6:17:15 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Dacula

If you study the law enforcement blogs, and I do, it will be revealed to you that “law enforcement” is highly concerned about two things:

1. Getting home alive at night.

2. Collecting a pension.

By assessing that data, you will realize that these “law enforcement” personnel have no interest in dying on a hilltop for the glory of obuma.


36 posted on 08/28/2013 6:20:52 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Years ago I was driving across Wyoming on a beautiful, clear day and I literally had the highway to myself. Not a car in sight until a police car crossed the median. I looked at my speedometer and, yes, I was just about 10 miles over the speed limit. I apologized profusely, signed the paperwork. Then he started to ask me - repeatedly - if wanted to go to the the station. Kinda freaked my out. I just kept saying no. I continued on my trip and mailed the ticket in that night.


37 posted on 08/28/2013 6:28:53 PM PDT by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Dacula
We can all thank GW Bush for DHS.

The Title "Department of Homeland Security" alone makes me gag.

38 posted on 08/28/2013 6:35:48 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Cvengr

They should forcibly arrest her for resisting arrest.


They never created an arrest.......to resist.


39 posted on 08/28/2013 6:36:34 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: Ramius

The check points they have in Texas are miles from the Border. They check those they think looks suspicious. Some of them look like they’re portable.


40 posted on 08/28/2013 6:38:44 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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