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City-Owned Cemetery Refuses to Engrave 'Jesus' on Preacher's Wife's Headstone
Townhall.com ^ | October 22, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 10/23/2013 6:08:57 AM PDT by Kaslin

The family of a Colorado preacher’s wife is still fuming after the director of the city-owned cemetery refused to engrave her final resting place with the name ‘Jesus’ because it might offend people. The city eventually reversed course under public pressure.

“We were in disbelief,” said Stacy Adams, the daughter-in-law of Linda Baker. “Who tries to censor Jesus from a cemetery?”

Linda Baker lost her battle with cancer last week. She was the wife of Mark Baker, the pastor of Harvest Baptist Church in Ovid.

Adams said her mother-in-law was passionate about her Christian faith and her family. Her final wish was to have her cemetery marker engraved with the ichthys, a symbol of early Christianity. She also wanted the word ‘Jesus’ written inside the fish.

“At first they told us it wouldn’t fit,” Adams told me. “But after we kept pushing them the cemetery director told us that it might offend somebody. They weren’t going to allow it.”

The family was devastated and asked the cemetery director to reconsider. He refused.

“He said, ‘What if somebody wanted to put a swastika?” she recounted. “My reply was, so what if they do? It’s not my business how they want to be remembered.”

The family then took their concerns to the Sterling city manager – but once again they were rebuffed.

“He refused to work with us,” she said. “He said he would have to take it to the city attorney. They were being difficult.”

She said city officials kept telling them that people would be offended by the name of Christ.

“We weren’t asking for a six-foot neon sign,” she said. “We did not want to put a cross on everyone’s tombstone. It’s a six-inch fish with the name ‘Jesus ‘ on it.”

So the family decided to post their plight on Facebook – and that’s when the city had a change of heart.

“We gave them fair warning,” she said. “We gave them time to do the right thing.”

Sterling City Manager Joe Kiolbasa told 9news.com they would no longer censor religious references on headstones and cemetery markers. He said the cemetery manager made a mistake.

“This gentleman thought it may have been objectionable to someone because of the Christian connotation,” Kiolbasa told the television station. “It will be allowed in the future.”

Adams tells me the family was incredibly distraught and disturbed by the incident.

“As an American and as a Christian, we have this thing called freedom of speech, freedom of expression,” she said. “We weren’t trying to stop anybody from putting anything up. We just wanted the same freedom others have.”

And the cemetery is filled with tombstones that have Bible verses and angels and other religious symbols.

Mrs. Baker’s marker should be finished in the coming days as her family continues the grieving process. But Adams can’t help but wonder who “people are so fearful of one name that they would go to such lengths to try and eliminate it.”

“If it can happen in a small country town like this, it makes you wonder what’s happening in other parts of the nation,” she said.

And I’d like to know who – specifically – would be offended by the name ‘Jesus’ on the grave marker of a pastor’s wife? What kind of malicious, godless, slop-sucking heathen would object to a dying woman’s last wishes?

Stacy Adams raises a valid question.

It’s outrageous that a grieving American family had to fight and cajole a city government to allow them to engage in their Constitutional rights.

The city of Sterling, Colo. owes the family of Linda Baker a sincere apology – and it should probably be delivered from the pulpit of Pastor Baker’s church.

As for the cemetery manager—comparing the name of Jesus to a swastika? Really, sir? My only wish is that on Judgment Day Mrs. Baker is standing at the Pearly Gates watching you explain yourself to Saint Peter.


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The word Jesus on a grave stone in a cemetery might offend people? Now I have heard it all
1 posted on 10/23/2013 6:08:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Not yet! It will get worse.


2 posted on 10/23/2013 6:12:55 AM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Kaslin
might offend people?

Exactly. The name Jesus does offend people. We are promised that. So what?

3 posted on 10/23/2013 6:12:58 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Kaslin

Desecration by omission... another liberal game.


4 posted on 10/23/2013 6:12:58 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Kaslin

He was being offended for someone he didn’t know existed.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 6:14:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Kaslin

Just curious. . .who was the first person to deny the request, and was this person perhaps a) atheist or b) muslime.

Just asking. . .


6 posted on 10/23/2013 6:15:49 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Kaslin
She said city officials kept telling them that people would be offended by the name of Christ.

So, they don't allow many Hispanics to be buried there, eh?.....................

7 posted on 10/23/2013 6:17:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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To: Hulka

C) JUST A PLAIN OLD LIBTARD A$$hole.....................

C is the correct answer............


8 posted on 10/23/2013 6:18:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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To: Gamecock

Jesus and the Cross are offensive to people because His Name and symbol boldly state

“nothing you can do will ever be good enough to save you from hell”


9 posted on 10/23/2013 6:19:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Travis McGee

‘Jesus’, swastika. Those are exactly the same thing.


10 posted on 10/23/2013 6:19:52 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Red Badger

Probably. . .most certainly not a Christian of any type.


11 posted on 10/23/2013 6:20:00 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Kaslin
Linda Baker lost her battle with cancer last week. She was the wife of Mark Baker, the pastor of Harvest Baptist Church in Ovid. Adams said her mother-in-law was passionate about her Christian faith and her family. Her final wish was to have her cemetery marker engraved with the ichthys, a symbol of early Christianity. She also wanted the word ‘Jesus’ written inside the fish.

“At first they told us it wouldn’t fit,” Adams told me. “But after we kept pushing them the cemetery director told us that it might offend somebody. They weren’t going to allow it.” The family was devastated and asked the cemetery director to reconsider. He refused. “He said, ‘What if somebody wanted to put a swastika?” she recounted. “My reply was, so what if they do? It’s not my business how they want to be remembered”....[Sterling Colorado] City Manager Joe Kiolbasa told 9news.com they would no longer censor religious references on headstones and cemetery markers. He said the cemetery manager made a mistake.

Ping for later

12 posted on 10/23/2013 6:22:29 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: Kaslin

Obama made certain that Osama(’s double) got full rights,
as did the switched remains of US veterans KIA,
cursed before their families by Obama’s chosen Imam.


13 posted on 10/23/2013 6:23:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Kaslin

Wait for the day when all the gravestones with any Christian or Jewish acknowledgement are taken down. Most before the 1930s had scripture on them or references to the Lord and heaven. All the stones of our military will have the crosses and star of David removed.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 6:27:06 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Kaslin

This is why this country is done for. Liberals and illegals infesting virtually every part of this country.

Their first inclination and duty is not ‘work’; it is in infecting all levels of government and the rule of law to rid their sensibilities of God, Christ, Jesus, Patriotism, Sovereignty and Honor. Atheists, Muslims, Agnostics and Humanists all.

Their allegiance is to evil, nothing more.


15 posted on 10/23/2013 6:27:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kaslin

As I repeatedly point out to those I know of either no religion, or a non Christian religion, if they think this has nothing to do with them, they are very much mistaken. After the state is done with the “offensive” Christians, they will be next.

But, as always, they are stupidly clueless.


16 posted on 10/23/2013 6:27:17 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: huldah1776

What’s with Townhall asking for your facebook id to sign in and keeping your contacts, birthdays, etc???? Yikes!


17 posted on 10/23/2013 6:28:09 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Kaslin

Seems like the city should not be in the business of owning cemeteries, except maybe for the burial of indigent or paupers or whatever the terminology is.


18 posted on 10/23/2013 6:28:28 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Kaslin

The underlying problem here is government intrusion into religious *sacraments*. Unless religions put their foot down and reject government involvement, they will discover themselves entirely co-opted by government.

Marriage has been taken away from religion (and corrupted) by government. As has the registration of birth, now by the government instead of churches. Now burial is being taken away (and as this article notes, they are trying to corrupt it).

Government *definitely* wants to involve itself with confession (”Or else the terrorists win!”), by monitoring what is said directly, or at least by being able to legally coerce priests, pastors and ministers to break the privacy of the confessional (like the government broke doctor-patient privacy with the HIPAA Act (thank you, W. Bush)).

I imagine also that administering last rites to the dying will be taken away from clergy, likely because of euthanasia. Since murderous medical people can kill at the time of their choosing, they will choose to do so, involuntarily, when there are no witnesses around, especially clergy.

I just wonder how the government will try to horn in to the rites of Baptism, Confirmation and the Eucharist?


19 posted on 10/23/2013 6:28:42 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I don’t believe so.
There are only two “sides”, Christ vs all who oppose Him.

The other “religions” are supported by the left because they are on the same side of this dichotomy.


20 posted on 10/23/2013 6:29:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yep...I’d rather deal with the devil, who is honest about who he is, than a person who denies he exists!


21 posted on 10/23/2013 6:30:22 AM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: Kaslin
The city probably relented after consulting with their city counsel. They clearly stated 'someone might be offended'.
The Colorado Constitution would have been the only thing necessary for the pastor to win in court:

Article II
Section 4;
The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination, shall forever hereafter be guaranteed; and no person shall be denied any civil or political right, privilege or capacity, on account of his opinions concerning religion; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be construed to dispense with oaths or affirmations, excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the good order, peace or safety of the state. No person shall be required to attend or support any ministry or place of worship, religious sect or denomination against his consent. Nor shall any preference be given by law to any religious denomination or mode of worship.

22 posted on 10/23/2013 6:30:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Kaslin
What kind of malicious, godless, slop-sucking heathen would object to a dying woman’s last wishes?

"Slop sucking heathens", now that's creative!

23 posted on 10/23/2013 6:31:10 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Kaslin
"..Sterling City Manager Joe Kiolbasa told 9news.com they would no longer censor religious references on headstones and cemetery markers. He said the cemetery manager made a mistake.

This gentleman thought it may have been objectionable to someone because of the Christian connotation, Kiolbasa told the television station. It will be allowed in the future..”

This is just sooo wrong on a few fronts. And I ain't even what you'd call a "good Christian". Sounds like these azzhats want folks to come 'round with their hats in their hands asking permission from en high to show their beliefs. And I like the way they blamed it on the "low level" cat instead of the whole chain of city leaders who participated in this debacle.

This chit's gettin' old. Quickly.

24 posted on 10/23/2013 6:35:21 AM PDT by CopperTop
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To: Hulka
 

Just curious. . .who was the first person to deny the request, and was this person perhaps a) atheist or b) muslime.

Just asking. . .

The sad thing is - that person probably thinks they are a Christian. If so - this should be there memory verse for today....

Matthew 10:33

But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.

25 posted on 10/23/2013 6:38:53 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Kaslin

And comparing Jesus to a swastika??!!

This monster’s head needs to roll and he needs to be at the back of the unemployment line. He needs to be reminded daily of what he said.


26 posted on 10/23/2013 6:49:40 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Red Badger

“Hay-SOOS.”


27 posted on 10/23/2013 6:49:45 AM PDT by BilLies ("Will none rid me of this lying bastard ?")
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To: Kaslin

If they said it was a tribute to their illegal alien uncle who just wanted the Dream Act to pass,but died before seeing it pass due to evil tea party types, it would be applauded and probably engraved for free.


28 posted on 10/23/2013 7:03:41 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Kaslin
I just went on the Sterling City Colorado contact page and sent a note to the city manager asking why the cemetery manager hasn't been fired yet for equating "Jesus" with a swastika.

Contact Page

29 posted on 10/23/2013 7:05:27 AM PDT by Washi
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To: MrB

It is easier than that:

I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6

Just believe in him.


30 posted on 10/23/2013 7:13:58 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

I’ll never forget quoting that to my libinlaw, and her reply of “he didn’t mean it THAT way”.


31 posted on 10/23/2013 7:14:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

But if it was an illegal named “Jesus”? No problemo.


32 posted on 10/23/2013 7:16:05 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: Kaslin

“Who tries to censor Jesus from a cemetery?”

A petty, mean-spirited little troll.


33 posted on 10/23/2013 7:18:04 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kaslin
As for the cemetery manager—comparing the name of Jesus to a swastika? Really, sir? My only wish is that on Judgment Day Mrs. Baker is standing at the Pearly Gates watching you explain yourself to Saint Peter.

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark!

34 posted on 10/23/2013 7:19:43 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Kaslin
FTA - "Sterling City Manager Joe Kiolbasa told 9news.com they would no longer censor religious references on headstones and cemetery markers. He said the cemetery manager made a mistake."

This clown had a chance to make it right, after the cemetery manager said no, but he didn't, he rejected them as well.

Now who was just thrown under the bus by the City Manager? The cemetery manager, I guess excrement really does roll down hill. HAHA!

Stupid aholes, I hope they get wirebrushed about this real good.

35 posted on 10/23/2013 7:20:54 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Washi
Sterling City Colorado
Yeah, I went to their webpage too and read their version of the incident. Very odd reporting style.
36 posted on 10/23/2013 7:21:13 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Kaslin

Matthew 11:

1 Now it came to pass, when Jesus finished commanding His twelve disciples, that He departed from there to teach and to preach in their cities. 2 And when John had heard in prison about the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples 3 and said to Him, “Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?”

4 Jesus answered and said to them, “Go and tell John the things which you hear and see: 5 The blind see and the lame walk; the lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear; the dead are raised up and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.”

(NKJ)

37 posted on 10/23/2013 7:25:57 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: MrB

You are missing my point. It doesn’t matter what religion it is, the state is eventually going after it. The left’s approach is always incrementalism. They will come after the Jews in this country. They are fostering a lot of Antisemitism, it’s just not getting reported except by places like Front Page Magazine.

The muzzies might end up on top at the end, but I don’t think so. The despots will use them and then go after them last. In the final analysis, ALL religion is the enemy of the state except in a theocracy.


38 posted on 10/23/2013 7:27:20 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Kaslin

Looks like the “malicious, godless, slop-sucking heathen” are in charge in that city.


39 posted on 10/23/2013 7:30:35 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Albion Wilde

Bump


40 posted on 10/23/2013 7:30:40 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
It doesn’t matter what religion it is, the state is eventually going after it.

No, I'm not missing the point. I'm saying the above is simply WRONG.
I'm not missing the point. I'm telling you the left/State is not "anti-religion", they're anti-CHRISTIAN.

I fully understood what you're trying to say. I'm pointing out that it's not true.

clear enough?

41 posted on 10/23/2013 7:32:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Let me say I include believing Jews in that statement as well.

The left hates God’s people and His Word.

They will side with anyone or anything that helps them to destroy His influence. (Homos, Muslims, Communists, etc).


42 posted on 10/23/2013 7:36:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

Shoulda just said that the name referred to an illegal alien pal of her husband’s.

Then they’d have kissed her *ss all day long.


43 posted on 10/23/2013 7:37:52 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: MrB

Crystal clear.

Sorry, still disagree with you. History shows the state will eventually go after other religions. That’s why I used the term incrementalism. Christianity is the first & primary target. Take it down and the rest fall like dominos.


44 posted on 10/23/2013 7:38:10 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; Kaslin

Dear Mayor of Sterling Colorado,

You have in your city administration, personnel of demonstrated incompetance. If you do not have the courage and integritity to FIRE these individuals, the voters of Sterling need to reconsider their choice of Mayor.


45 posted on 10/23/2013 7:38:43 AM PDT by Daffy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Perhaps gravity and Occam may supply the explanation for the ‘Sterling’ performance of the officious in Sterling, Colorado.

First, as Google shows, there is a large prison facility near Sterling, so an authoritarian streak is well funded in that area’s people.

Note that Sterling is east of Denver and Denver is east of Boulder. Boulder is at the highest altitude and is the most Liberal.

Consider the SRDH concept. SRDH (Sh*t Runs Down Hill) would explain how Boulder Dementia Syndrome spread to Denver and thence eastward to Sterling.

As Occam said, Simplest hypothesis is best.

Conclusion: Liberal SRDH is approaching you. Are you prepared?


46 posted on 10/23/2013 7:40:51 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Kaslin

I live in California where we have thousands of Jesus Rodriguezs, Gonzalezes, etc. Betcha there are plenty of headstones with Jesus on them here.


47 posted on 10/23/2013 7:51:08 AM PDT by sheana
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To: oh8eleven

Sounds in the end like somebody bit into the Kiolbasa.

;^)


48 posted on 10/23/2013 7:53:54 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970

Sounds like no one in the town ‘gubmint has a name. Feckin’ pinko-commie robots.


49 posted on 10/23/2013 7:58:15 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

“Sterling City Manager Joe Kiolbasa told 9news.com they would no longer censor religious references on headstones and cemetery markers. He said the cemetery manager made a mistake. “This gentleman thought it may have been objectionable to someone because of the Christian connotation,” Kiolbasa told the television station. “It will be allowed in the future.”

FYI. Anyway, they only backed down due to the bad publicity.


50 posted on 10/23/2013 9:17:47 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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