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1 posted on 10/26/2013 6:22:28 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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So, what are our academies training now? Storm Troopers for the Empire?


2 posted on 10/26/2013 6:25:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BlatherNaut

Military Religious Freedom Foundation= This is a Hate Group and no one should give them the time of day.
Never give in to these hate groups, Stand strong


3 posted on 10/26/2013 6:29:52 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go tave atteno sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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Bump


5 posted on 10/26/2013 6:33:19 AM PDT by lowbridge
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Fidelity: optional

What good do these acadamies do any more?


6 posted on 10/26/2013 6:35:19 AM PDT by onedoug
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Well then, I guess it is not really an oath then. So now if one of the “opt-outs” goes on to leak classified info, they can just claim; “I never really swore an oath to anyone, so what’s the problem?”

The slippery slope is turning into a sheer cliff, isn’t it?

At least I can say with pride that I am NOT an academy grad.


7 posted on 10/26/2013 6:35:36 AM PDT by mesoman7
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And as I do nearly every single day, I have to ask, “Exactly how long will it take before the backlash and reversal of this insanity begins?


8 posted on 10/26/2013 6:39:32 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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In all fairness, I have never been a fan of “swearing to God” for secular purposes. From a strict religious point of view, it is “using the name of God in vanity.”

From the start, the US rejected the idea that the constitutional order, leaders and the law were respectively “written by heaven, chosen by heaven, and written by heaven”, so if you disagreed with them you were being blasphemous. This had long been the view in Europe to maintain the noble classes, that they should rule because God wanted them to. God hates peasants.

So even the constitution was clear that it, and the law, were made by men and for men. So could be changed by men without inherently offending heaven.

What is the Air Force Oath? Personnel swearing to support and defend the constitution, not the president, and not their superiors if they give an unconstitutional or illegal order. Bringing God into the equation is just an affront to God.

Typically, swearing before God is only properly done at the events of religious sacrament, in the context of faith.

Even in court, where witnesses used to swear on the Bible, what exactly did that say? “I swear to God that I will follow the secular law written by drunken and corrupt legislators and subject to change”? It is a non sequitur.

God, and the allegiance to God, are supposed to be above the day to day affairs of grubby little mortals.


9 posted on 10/26/2013 6:49:55 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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What honor? The Air Force now plays along with Wiccan, a "witches" fairytale for little girls invented only recently. The Air force allows "My Little Pony" squadron patches.


10 posted on 10/26/2013 6:52:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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"So help me God" Was optional when I enlisted in 1977. It also said "I solemnly swear (or affirm)...
11 posted on 10/26/2013 7:11:19 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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HONOR OPTIONAL IN GODLESS AIRFORCE

fify


13 posted on 10/26/2013 7:19:48 AM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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I don’t like getting up at 5Am ( I’m still “with” my other), running 5 miles a day, having the DI scream at me,etc. “I have my rights”.


18 posted on 10/26/2013 8:08:50 AM PDT by capt B
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If you leave out “so help me God” it is not an oath.


20 posted on 10/26/2013 9:15:42 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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