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A year after Romney loss, GOP woes run even deeper (o noes 4 woes)
Associated Press ^ | Oct 28, 2013 11:12 AM EDT | Charles Babington

Posted on 10/28/2013 8:37:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: SoConPubbie

Romneycare used Medicaid funds the state ALREADY receives to subsidize health insurance. They were going to get the money anyways.


61 posted on 10/28/2013 10:55:07 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I don’t have auto insurance. I have no car.

Should I be shot by the fascist thugs because I am not paying in?

ObamaCare and RomneyCare are not about getting people insured, you might have noticed that premiums skyrocketed - this is because it is a wealth redistribution scheme and some people will be paying the premiums for others.

This is socialism. Even if it is done at a state level.


62 posted on 10/28/2013 10:55:08 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

OK. You don’t drive. You don’t need auto insurance. Fine.

But we have to make sure that if you don’t have health coverage and you get sick and go to the hospital that you won’t walk away from that bill.


63 posted on 10/28/2013 10:57:28 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

lol

That shouldn’t be the governments business. The federal government is $17 trillion in debt and it thinks it should be charged with that? lol


64 posted on 10/28/2013 11:02:07 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

That’s what civil court is for...the man entered into an arrangement with the hospital, they treat his ailment, he pays them. If he fails to honor his part of that agreement, well fellow, we’ll see you in court.

How does having the government involved in a private transaction help anyone involved? Simple, it doesn’t.


65 posted on 10/28/2013 11:10:10 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Stop making arguments that RomneyCare was not a budget buster until you reply to the Cato information posted above. Your say-so doesn’t make it true in the face of reality.


66 posted on 10/28/2013 11:12:15 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( "I was all for Obamacare, until I found out I was paying for it." - California Girl)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Who is “we” Kimosabe?

You and your statist bureaucrat buddies?

Hospitals should be free to contract as they see fit.


67 posted on 10/28/2013 11:13:45 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( "I was all for Obamacare, until I found out I was paying for it." - California Girl)
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To: GeronL

I totally agree. Health insurance is NOT a federal responsibility. But the states can regulate health insurance and they can regulate automobile insurance.


68 posted on 10/28/2013 11:13:54 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Uncle Miltie

Hospitals are not free to contract as they see fit. They cannot turn people away.


69 posted on 10/28/2013 11:17:12 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Be sure to send our love to Mitt, Juan and Linda at your next RINO conclave.


70 posted on 10/28/2013 11:17:57 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( "I was all for Obamacare, until I found out I was paying for it." - California Girl)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
People do NOT have the right to walk into a hospital, receive care and treatment and leave the taxpayers stuck with the bill,

unless they speak Spanish and are in the country illegally. There - fixed it for you.

71 posted on 10/28/2013 11:18:43 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

they can regulate it, but they cannot force me to buy things I don’t want


72 posted on 10/28/2013 11:18:54 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

But they could if Government weren’t in their business in the first place.

So you would patch a failure of government with more government.

Nice. Socialist.


73 posted on 10/28/2013 11:19:13 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( "I was all for Obamacare, until I found out I was paying for it." - California Girl)
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To: SZonian

Yo cannot put debtors in prison. If you could, half the college students in this country would now be in the slammer.


74 posted on 10/28/2013 11:19:14 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: jdege

Keep in mind that the media are now unashamed agents of the Democratic Party, and that all policy disputes will be cast as disagreements between “rational” Democrats and “extremist” Republicans. And even indisputable facts will not get in their way. For example, when the recent government shutdown was looming, the Seattle Times editorialized that it was time for Republicans to break ranks and show courage, to quit acting as a monolithic block-vote. But that is what the DEMOCRATS were doing - acting as a block vote - whereas the Republicans were divided and squabbling.


75 posted on 10/28/2013 11:19:53 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Free markets can correct for bad debts.

Your repeatedly preferred socialists positions cannot.


76 posted on 10/28/2013 11:20:44 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( "I was all for Obamacare, until I found out I was paying for it." - California Girl)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
"As I understand the Constitution, states are pretty much free to do whatever they want, unless it is specifically prohibited by the Constitution. States regulate issues such as marriage, abortion, automobile because they are not covered by the Constitution. States even have the power and authority to set up an official state religion (the federal government cannot of course) if they so wanted to."

That is correct. Even Robert Bork conceded that the Constitution does not prohibit the states from passing bad laws, and the Constitutional limits on the states are relatively few.
77 posted on 10/28/2013 11:22:45 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Uncle Miltie

I hate socialism. But the law states hospitals cannot turn away anyone. I do not favor more government or higher taxes. Romneycare did not raise taxes. Romneycare did not increase new spending. Romneycare rediverted funds already allocated to the state from Medicaid.


78 posted on 10/28/2013 11:24:10 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Who said anything about prison? Civil court, not criminal court...

Liens, garnishments, etc. to recoup the payments owed...rightfully owed to the provider of said services.

It’s quite simple, if you don’t like the arrangement, don’t enter into it. Find another provider more to your liking.


79 posted on 10/28/2013 11:26:16 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Exactly. And if Romneycare proved to be bad and unpopular and workable tthe voters in that state could repeal it in the next election. Bad laws get passed. Bad laws can get repealed. Much easier on the state level.


80 posted on 10/28/2013 11:26:54 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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