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If You Have Individual Insurance Cancel It
4 your Country ^ | 10/30/2013 | 4yourcountry

Posted on 10/30/2013 12:31:14 PM PDT by CriticalThinking

....So, If I don’t buy any insurance, I save $6,360. The risk is, something big happens. But if that does, then I can immediately buy insurance to cover it. The new insurance won’t start the deductible process until I purchase it. Which basically means if my wife or I get really sick, buy the insurance before costs exceed something between $0 and $6,360. This is sort of our personal actuarial process. But each year, we save the money so that break even point will change. To be fair, the penalty goes up to 2% in 2015, so the savings will be $4,560 then. Given the actuarial nature of ACA, premiums are likely to go up because ACA mandates a reduction of the deductible. What this all means is the “Don’t buy insurance” plan works fine for the next few years but maybe not forever.....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; obamacare
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1 posted on 10/30/2013 12:31:14 PM PDT by CriticalThinking
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To: CriticalThinking

I don’t trust 0 so I would not suggest this plan. It could become a deadly mistake.


2 posted on 10/30/2013 12:32:43 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: CriticalThinking

Interesting take.


3 posted on 10/30/2013 12:34:26 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: mountainlion

I don’t trust him either, but would a hospital turn you away if you’re having a heart attack?


4 posted on 10/30/2013 12:36:14 PM PDT by albie
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"I don’t trust him either, but would a hospital turn you away if you’re having a heart attack?"

They are not supposed to. But it could happen. Worse what happens if it is a heart attack, stroke or vehicle accident, and you aren't able to buy insurance immediately? You would be liable for all expenses until you purchased it.

5 posted on 10/30/2013 12:39:33 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: CriticalThinking

That’s a brilliant plan.

If you’re moslem.

If you’re white, or heterosexual, that’s a brilliant plan until you arrive at the hospital and they explain there’s been another ‘glitch.’


6 posted on 10/30/2013 12:40:19 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: albie

Buy law, a hospital can never turn you away.


7 posted on 10/30/2013 12:40:26 PM PDT by CriticalThinking
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To: mountainlion

Someone on here posted about an accident occurring three hours after medical insurance expired. Pretty risky stuff. And as far as purchasing after the event, there is always going to be a two week delay before coverage at the minimum and possibly much more if you miss open enrollment periods.


8 posted on 10/30/2013 12:42:29 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: CriticalThinking

Hospitals turn people away all the time for non life sustaining treatments.


9 posted on 10/30/2013 12:43:35 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: CriticalThinking
The risk is, something big happens. But if that does, then I can immediately buy insurance to cover it. The new insurance won’t start the deductible process until I purchase it.

Not outside of the open enrollment period, you can't.

Overall, this "plan" is nothing short of idiotic.

10 posted on 10/30/2013 12:44:16 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: albie

A health care consultant MBA type told me only 3% of uninsured claims are actually paid off by the patient.

I’ll leave the moral judgement to the user.


11 posted on 10/30/2013 12:45:15 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

You can buy outside of open enrollment if you dont need a subsidy


12 posted on 10/30/2013 12:47:36 PM PDT by CriticalThinking
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To: CriticalThinking

The plan has some merit but suppose you and your wife are dragged into an ER unconscious following a car accident. By the time either of you is able to apply for/sign for/pay for insurance you’ve run up a six figure hospital bill.

Now what?


13 posted on 10/30/2013 12:50:20 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: CriticalThinking
Buy law, a hospital can never turn you away.

The demoRats can change any law.

14 posted on 10/30/2013 12:50:41 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: albie

No hospital can legally turn you away from their ER. Once you are stable sayonnara.


15 posted on 10/30/2013 12:54:33 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: CriticalThinking
Buy law, a hospital can never turn you away.

If they accept Federal money. Which is most of them.

16 posted on 10/30/2013 12:55:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Now what? Chapter 7. F’em.


17 posted on 10/30/2013 12:58:36 PM PDT by MisterEd37 (TSA: You don't get on until we get off!)
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To: albie
would a hospital turn you away if you're having a heart attack?

Even if it doesn't what kind of care do you think you'll get? All medical services will be choked by people who flood the system for everything.

18 posted on 10/30/2013 12:59:26 PM PDT by grania
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To: DannyTN

What if it’s not an emergency, as defined by EMTALA, but something like cancer? A hospital does have to take you in and stabilize you if you are having a heart attack, but not if you find some hard lump, or persistent low-grade bleeding.

Let that progress until you’ve got a ruptured bowel, or seizures because of the brain tumors - yeah, then they have to stabilize you. But not until then.


19 posted on 10/30/2013 1:00:40 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: grania

If you can actually pay cash, the hospital will put you in the presidents suite. Even with insurance, it takes them months to get their money.


20 posted on 10/30/2013 1:01:38 PM PDT by CriticalThinking
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