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not that this is really news to any of us, but how many lefties believe that we have a fully operational missile shield? one of my sisters does. She is ignorantly in lefty bliss.

1 posted on 11/01/2013 4:47:24 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: FreeAtlanta

Interesting, no Washington DC.

Collusion?


2 posted on 11/01/2013 4:51:03 AM PDT by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“but how many lefties believe that we have a fully operational missile shield? one of my sisters does. She is ignorantly in lefty bliss. “

Rather ironic isn’t it? The left was all lathered up during Ronnie Raygun’s launching a workable missile shield.


3 posted on 11/01/2013 4:56:34 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: FreeAtlanta

WE HAVE BILL CLINTON TO THANK FO THIS:

From Discover the Networks—(GREAT SITE BY THE WAY)

Chinagate and the Compromising of U.S. Intelligence:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, Chinese missiles were greatly limited in terms of their range and accuracy. But as journalist Richard Poe noted in 2003, “Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA, using state-of-the-art, solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads.”

Poe explains that the Clinton administration willingly permitted China to obtain the technology necessary for this giant leap forward. In part this was due to Clinton’s globalist view of international relations, where “multipolarity” — the notion that a balance of power among nations is preferable to the existence of a single superpower — is the ideal. Acting out of that mindset, Clinton appointed the anti-nuclear activist Hazel O’Leary as his Energy Secretary. A self-identified advocate of “leveling the playing field” in terms of miltary capacity, O’Leary declassified some 11 million pages of military data; she also loosened security procedures at U.S. weapons labs. According to Poe, “Federal investigators later concluded that China made off with the ‘crown jewels’ of our nuclear weapons research under Clinton’s open-door policy — probably including design specifications for suitcase nukes.”

But declassification was not the only means by which President Clinton transferred missile technology and nuclear secrets to the Chinese. He also permitted those secrets to be sold directly to Beijing. Poe elaborates:

“In his book The China Threat, Washington Times correspondent Bill Gertz describes how the system worked. Defense contractors eager to sell technology to China poured millions of dollars into Clinton’s campaign. In return, Clinton called off the dogs. Janet Reno and other counterintelligence officials stood down while Lockheed Martin, Hughes Electronics, Loral Space & Communications and other U.S. companies helped China modernize its nuclear strike force.

“’We like your president. We want to see him reelected,’ former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung.

“Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton’s way.

“Clinton’s top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China.

“Clinton recieved funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar Riady who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun and others.”

In a related move, Clinton in 1997 awarded a 25- to 50-year contract to Hutchinson Whampoa Ltd., a Hong Kong-based shipping firm with ties to Communist China’s government and its People’s Liberation Army. The contract authorized Hutchinson to control the two major ports on the Panama Canal’s Atlantic and Pacific entrances. As Senator Trent Lott put it:

“This administration is allowing a scenario to develop where U.S. national security interests could not be protected without confronting the Chinese communists in the Americas. U.S. naval ships will be at the mercy of Chinese-controlled pilots and could even be denied passage through the Panama Canal by Hutchinson, an arm of the People’s Liberation Army. In addition, the Chinese Communist Party will gain an intelligence information advantage by controlling this strategic chokepoint. It appears that we have given away the farm without a shot being fired.”

Noting the ominous implications of this, Richard Poe observed: “China can now strike U.S. targets easily from their bases in Panama, Vancouver and the Bahamas.”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=644


4 posted on 11/01/2013 5:11:16 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: FreeAtlanta

Don’t worry about the Chinese nuking the US. You don’t nuke your own property.


6 posted on 11/01/2013 5:30:32 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Scary huh, but they, like our military, have contingency plans on the books to use this kind of action, if needed, on any country in the world.

I’m sure you would find Finland on that list.


7 posted on 11/01/2013 5:31:05 AM PDT by RetSignman (As Goes America, So Goes the World. A Communist America, A Communist World.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

The primary targets for China’s SSBN fleet has always been the US West Coast. That means targets from Bellingham, WA to San Diego will be within reach of the Chinese submarines if they can make it out to the middle of the Pacific.


11 posted on 11/01/2013 5:51:59 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Odd. I figured they’d just foreclose rather than destroy the property they own.


12 posted on 11/01/2013 5:55:36 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Jeesh!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Hmmmm......Maine?

I’m assuming that “dot” on Maine should be further south.....the naval shipyard at Bath Iron Works?


15 posted on 11/01/2013 6:22:21 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Earlier this week the Russians had a large scale nuc exercise and now this.
What are Democrats doing? Defunding the military, firing generals and admirals. Right in our faces.


16 posted on 11/01/2013 6:43:59 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Is that the same missile shield they demonized as Star Wars?


18 posted on 11/01/2013 7:08:16 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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Gee...where did the ChiComs get the know-how to accomplish this...

19 posted on 11/01/2013 7:23:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Why would China want to destroy a large chunk of its own real estate holdings?


20 posted on 11/01/2013 7:27:31 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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China Moves Spy Ship to Hawaiian Waters in “Retaliation” Against U.S.
http://www.infowars.com/china-moves-spy-ship-to-hawaiian-waters-in-retaliation-against-u-s/


23 posted on 11/01/2013 7:40:06 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

So much for moving to the redoubt in case the SHTF. :-)


24 posted on 11/01/2013 7:40:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Nov 8th, 2009.

That was not an "aircraft contrail."

Mystery Missile: Launch of Unknown Missile Caught on Tape in California

Mystery missile launch off California coast: Comes from submarine?

Pentagon NOW says California 'missile' was an aircraft... a full 48 hours after the event


27 posted on 11/01/2013 8:41:02 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: FreeAtlanta

That map doesn’t appear to make sense.

The colored zones have no logical relation to the location of the dots.

For example: the target in Montana is right at the edge of their orange zone. Southern Oregon is all red, even though it has no bombing sites there.

They certainly do have nuclear submarine options, but this map doesn’t reflect them.


28 posted on 11/01/2013 9:12:29 AM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Socialism is just like any other form of corruption, except that it is perpetrated by a mob.)
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To: nathanbedford; Cringing Negativism Network
I wanted to reply to your post but it was pulled on the other thread for a duplicate:

America has been sending American jobs overseas (and to China, in large part) for an entire generation.

You replied to CNN as follows:

It has not been the tea party but the establishment of the Republican Party through its sounding boards in places like the Wall Street Journal that have sustained this policy. In other words, the same people who frustrate us on social issues, on Obamacare, on the kind of candidates we want, are the same people who are complicit in hollowing out America for their own short-term profit.
What is their anecdote for shipping manufacturing jobs to China and IT jobs to India? To import illiterate Mexicans to further increase consumer demand and, not incidentally, further depress wages which cannot be depressed by sending the jobs to China.
I'm feeling a little feisty and feel like starting a fight so I will point out that the one Republican politician for the last generations who saw all of this, complained of this, and actually ran for president on this was Pat Buchanan. Where was the Wall Street Journal and the establishment wing of the Republican Party concerning Pat Buchanan's candidacy? They borked him and everybody ran screaming, oh no he is a Nazi and an anti-Semite!
I live in what used to be Nazi land which is running a much healthier economy than we are in the USA. Small wonder the Germans took umbrage at American government's official criticism of the German economy. I do not see the "Nazis" here or the "anti-Semites" here sending so many jobs to China. If Germany has what it takes to save the world's leading economy back in the USA, give me more Nazis.

I am with you on Buchanan. He gets a lot of things right. When I get home I will post the portion of Buchanan's interview with Limbaugh from about ten years ago.

36 posted on 11/01/2013 1:53:12 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Jeff Head

Ping.


41 posted on 11/01/2013 9:07:02 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: FreeAtlanta; cripplecreek

I wonder what the dot in Michigan is supposed to be? Lansing?


42 posted on 11/01/2013 9:08:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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My understanding from previous threads is that the U.S. can detect the location of the four subs of current generation of Chinese SSBNs, but the Chinese cannot detect the location of the eighteen Ohio-class SSBNs, which are technologically at least two decades more advanced. Is this correct. This story sounds like an idle threat.


45 posted on 11/01/2013 11:21:25 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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