Exactamundo!
Posted on 11/04/2013 8:19:16 AM PST by YourAdHere
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Actually, on this one narrow point, she tells the truth. Arrests are public knowledge too, and can (and have personally) disqualified.
1. An arrest does not a criminal make. It’s that whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing. Often, charges are dismissed, there’s no indictment etc. So there’s no point in asking about arrests.
2. Convictions are a different kettle of fish. But the person may have been convicted of something incredbily minor with no moral turpitude (e.g. underage possession of alcohol) or of an offense that is no longer a crime in some states (e.g. minor possession of marijuana).
3. Just because it can’t or won’t ask on a job application doesn’t mean it can’t still check (with the Internet, it’s super easy).
Of course in this modern internet world where you can look up anybody’s arrest record for free who needs to put it on the app? Just have your HR bookmark a couple of site and plug all applicants into these search. Really at this point all you need from an applicant is their name and socsec, anything else you want to know about them you can get on your own in less time.
Well put. I might differ partially on the “felons shouldn’t vote” part. I would qualify that with “if it’s a violent felony or you were caught with a weapon, then you lose your right to vote.”
Good Lord. I work at Target in healthcare. Their sales aren’t exactly strong right now ...so many dumb moves ...I hate it.
Of course their prices will have to increase to cover all the theft by employees.
Because, they are lining themselves up to hire some very accomplished thieves... and worse.
Target is absolute junk anyway, but they’ll have to pad the bill for everyone else!!
The problem with hiring felons, knowingly or unknowingly(you should have asked) is the fact that the employer becomes a sitting duck for lawsuits should that employee commit another crime. Trial lawyers use it as a stick to beat you with regardless of any and all circumstances. You become ‘partially responsible’ and if you happen to be the only party with deep pockets who get to pay the entire judgment. Sure, the check can be moved to after an initial interview, which has a cost associated, and disqualify the candidate later, but for how long? The purpose of these advocacy groups is to make it illegal to refuse to hire based on criminal record without any concomitant immunity from lawsuits. Lawyers will get to sue for ‘civil’ rights’ violations on the front end and damages on the back end: sweet.
Actually I think I agree with this to a degree. I think a company should only go back say... 7-10 years on convictions.
I worked in HR for a company that paid very well so all the locals wanted to work there. They typically had to work as temp laborers, pass drug tests and background.
One guy worked as a temp for awhile - and I don’t know why it took so long to get the info but he’d worked there a week or two before they found out he had a selling marijuana conviction. I overheard him talking to the HR manager who was in the process of firing him, he said “when will I ever be able to put this behind me? It’s been over 20 years and it still haunts me and keeps me from getting a good paying job”.
Course, that would be drug convictions, not sure how I’d feel about rape, crimes of pedophilia, maybe go back forever on them.
If Target’s sales are weak, it’s because Wally World is perceived as undercutting them in prices. Their electronics and sporting goods lines are lousy, too, by the way. Nothing to do with whether or not they ask for arrests or convictions for their new hires.
Applicants will still be investigate. They just won’t be asked to lie about it.
I agree, perhaps a violent crime but say you sold marijuana 20 years ago, does that mean you should have no right to vote today?
Exactamundo!
Awesome. The losses will multiply as the morons running that company continue to hire thugs and crooks. Eventually it will collapse and someone responsible will take over.
The Target stores in my area, once much nicer than Wal-Mart, have been turning ghetto.
Not to mention the number of innocent people convicted because they could only afford public pretenders.
It’s getting to the point that we are all criminals in the eyes of those who want to rule over a subservient people.
Salvation Army at Walmart, in my part of Florida, during Christmas
That has to be there for all who work with children.
I might try that next Halloween, be Santa and give away candy to people. lol.
What does it matter?
Theft, burglary, breaking and entering, shop-lifting.....It’s OKAY now. Obama has your back.
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