I had an LDS temple worker landlord who everyone thought was nice...she tried to kill me.

Ted Bundy was “Nice” as well

I find a certain amount of strange behavior is common, though not expected. One of my Mormon friends said that strange people frequently come to “try out” the church. They are drawn to what they have heard, whether real or imagined.

We are really close with our Mormon neighbor. She and her husband were separated for two years before we were told. We knew, of course, but it’s never been discussed,

Sample short list of other Mormon murderers (excluding list of Mountain Meadows Massacre) ... Mormon Murderers

Wild Bill Hickman (left) and Porter Rockwell (center) were two of the most notorious serial killers in U.S. history. Hickman is credited with murdering 14 people, all under direct orders from Brigham Young. Rockwell's total is usually given at at least 150, although nobody really knows the true amount. His tally does not include the 36 soldiers who perished after the ambush of the Fort Bridger food convoy at the start of the Utah Mormon War of 1857 (Porter led the raid), or the 450 or so Indians that were slaughtered at the Bear River Massacre (Porter guided the army to the killing scene and picked off numerous women and children that were trying to escape the carnage. Almost all of his killings were sanctioned by Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

John D. Lee (right) participated in the Mountain Meadows Massacre, where another 120 or so men, women and children where murdered. Lee was the only person to be tried for the murders, and was later shot by firing squad at the site of the killings. His Confessions, written between the time of his trial and execution, chronicles the church sponsored killing of dozens in Ohio, Missouri, Illinois, and Utah. When reading the document, look for the code words used up.

In addition to the 570 (plus or minus) murdered at Mountain Meadows Massacre and at the Bear River Massacre, your short list also omits the casualties from the Missouri Mormon Wars (around 50 plus or minus), the Illinois Mormon Wars (around 20 plus or minus), the Utah War of 1857 (around 150 plus or minus), the Atkins Massacre (around 20 plus or minus), the six Mormon Civil Wars (chronicled by the historian Hubert Bancroft term - total unknown), the blood atonement killings (I've seen estimates ranging from 800 to 2,000), and the eight named Indian wars and dozens of unnamed Indian skirmishes (total unknown). Thousands more have been beaten and/or castrated over the years by Mormon vigilante mobs; many thousands more have suffered abuse under plural marriages.

Mormonism has a terrible legacy of violence, indeed.

Change of ownership, he is still quoted by the UU Journalism school.

No, I’m not...but I will...thanks!

Apparently it’s common knowledge in Central Florida that if you are caught poaching or maybe even just trespassing on the Deseret Ranch you will be “disappeared”.

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Wild Bill Hickman (left) and Porter Rockwell (center) were two of the most notorious serial killers in U.S. history. Hickman is credited with murdering 14 people, all under direct orders from Brigham Young. Rockwell's total is usually given at at least 150, although nobody really knows the true amount. His tally does not include the 36 soldiers who perished after the ambush of the Fort Bridger food convoy at the start of the Utah Mormon War of 1857 (Porter led the raid), or the 450 or so Indians that were slaughtered at the Bear River Massacre (Porter guided the army to the killing scene and picked off numerous women and children that were trying to escape the carnage. Almost all of his killings were sanctioned by Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. John D. Lee (right) participated in the Mountain Meadows Massacre, where another 120 or so men, women and children where murdered. Lee was the only person to be tried for the murders, and was later shot by firing squad at the site of the killings. His Confessions, written between the time of his trial and execution, chronicles the church sponsored killing of dozens in Ohio, Missouri, Illinois, and Utah. When reading the document, look for the code words used up. In addition to the 570 (plus or minus) murdered at Mountain Meadows Massacre and at the Bear River Massacre, your short list also omits the casualties from the Missouri Mormon Wars (around 50 plus or minus), the Illinois Mormon Wars (around 20 plus or minus), the Utah War of 1857 (around 150 plus or minus), the Atkins Massacre (around 20 plus or minus), the six Mormon Civil Wars (chronicled by the historian Hubert Bancroft term - total unknown), the blood atonement killings (I've seen estimates ranging from 800 to 2,000), and the eight named Indian wars and dozens of unnamed Indian skirmishes (total unknown). Thousands more have been beaten and/or castrated over the years by Mormon vigilante mobs; many thousands more have suffered abuse under plural marriages. Mormonism has a terrible legacy of violence, indeed.

Good synopsis of "not-so-nice Mormon 'neighbors'"

On 29 January 1863 Colonel Patrick Edward Connor and about 200 California Volunteers attacked a Northwestern Shoshoni winter village located at the confluence of Beaver Creek and Bear River, twelve miles west and north of the village of Franklin in Cache Valley and just a short distance north of the present Utah-Idaho boundary line. This band of 450 Shoshoni under war chief Bear Hunter had watched uneasily as Mormon farmers had moved into the Indian home of Cache Valley in the spring of 1860 and now, three years later, had appropriated all the land and water of the verdant mountain valley. The young men of the tribe had struck back at the white settlers; this prompted Utah territorial officials to call on Connor's troops to punish the Northwestern band. Before the colonel led his men from Camp Douglas at Salt Lake City north to Bear River, he had announced that he intended to take no prisoners

“Mormonism has a terrible legacy of violence, indeed. “

Yes. It must be terrible when the governor of a state issues an order for you to be exterminated ...

Wild Bill Hickman (left) and Porter Rockwell (center) were two of the most notorious serial killers in U.S. history. Hickman is credited with murdering 14 people, all under direct orders from Brigham Young. Rockwell's total is usually given at at least 150, although nobody really knows the true amount. His tally does not include the 36 soldiers who perished after the ambush of the Fort Bridger food convoy at the start of the Utah Mormon War of 1857 (Porter led the raid), or the 450 or so Indians that were slaughtered at the Bear River Massacre (Porter guided the army to the killing scene and picked off numerous women and children that were trying to escape the carnage. Almost all of his killings were sanctioned by Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

And, ya know, it'd be another thing if modern-day Mormons distanced themselves from Rockwell. But do they?

See for yourself:

Evidential Item #1:

* In Lehi, Utah, Mormons have established a restaurant called "Porter's Place" -- that some people have said is "haunted" Utah Ghosts [The OTHER World Series...Haunted Utah]
* The Deseret Book/DVD mentioned below had its authors (a Rockwell descendant and co-author Jerry Borrowman) sign copies of the book in 2010 @ Porter's Place -- "a popular steak house in Lehi that serves, among other delicacies, a burger dubbed The Destroying Angel that has a one-pound patty."
Source: New book, DVD focus on LDS and Old West icon Porter Rockwell (Provo Herald, June 13, 2010)

Evidential Item #2:

* "There's also an outdoor statue of the city's most famous resident near the Lehi Legacy Center."
Source: New book, DVD focus on LDS and Old West icon Porter Rockwell (Provo Herald, June 13, 2010)

Evidential Item #3:

* Glenn D. Hubbard's June 14, 1999 letter-to-the-editor was published in the Salt Lake Tribune:
"Much to my dismay, I see there is an office building under construction at the point of the mountain just west of I-15 named after the most prolific hit man murderer that ever lived in Utah or probably anywhere else. Orrin Porter Rockwell died at age 65 in a horse stable in Salt Lake city on June 9, 1878, trying to sober up from a drunk. At the time of his death he was under indictment for the murderer of Thomas and John Aiken in Levan, Utah, and would have gone to trial in September. On June 11, 1878, The Salt Lake Tribune stated " Thus the gallows was cheated of one of the fittest candidates that ever cut a throat or plundered a traveler." The Tribune further described Rockwell as extremely ignorant, illiterate, and superstitious. His calling in the Mormon church was to murder apostates and gentiles with the help of other Danite murderers such as William A. (Bill) Hickman. It is believed that he participated in at least 100 murders for the church....Porter Rockwell is also believed to have killed Dr. J. King Robinson, a surgeon who came into the Salt Lake valley in 1861 with General Conner's army. Robinson married a Mormon woman, Nellie Kay, and practiced medicine until Oct. 22, 1866, when he was called out of his house at night. Within blocks of his house he was clubbed and shot to death simply because he had filed a claim of ownership on what was later known as Wasatch Springs. Robinson is buried in the Fort Douglas cemetery. None of Porter Rockwell's murders were more unjustifiable than the killing of Kenneth and Alexander McRae, who were 18 and 21 years old. It was reported they had stolen a mule though no mule was missing or in their possession when Rockwell and a "deputy" blasted them with shotguns in Emigration Canyon on Aug. 30, 1861, and later dumped their bodies in the mother's yard. Again, I am appalled that a building could be named after this cowardly murderer."
Source: Murderer Honored

Evidential Item #4

* The Provo Herald publishes an article June 13, 2010 glorifying a book/DVD just (then) published by the Mormon church -- see New book, DVD focus on LDS and Old West icon Porter Rockwell (Provo Herald, June 13, 2010).

[For the Deseret DVD itself, see Stories from the Life of Porter Rockwell (DVD)]

Anyway, the Provo Herald article raised some key issues...and I cited Hubbard's letter to the editor about Mormons glorifying Rockwell's name by selecting an office building to name after him. Here's what I wrote in 2010 as I cited the book/Provo Herald article:
So a cowardly murderer gets prominent Mormon play even today. From the article: "He evokes the folk hero," Rockwell said. "As many have said to me, 'We can't be like him anymore.' He would not fit in today, either in the church or in modern society."

Hmmmm...what a 'tough' question. Would a mass murderer "fit in" in today's culture? Yeah, people are want to assign big differences, "19th century times were different..." But they revise history in doing so. They portray 19th century people as lax on crime, when in fact, people were hung for stealing horses -- usually after trials, not before. IOW, certain crimes were often overdone, not given undertreatment. Even Rockwell was given justification for shooting supposed mule thieves -- though no proof was given they stole the mule! Besides, even if people now try to assign a "wild west sense of 'times were different then'" mentality, they forget one little thing: Religious leaders were supposed to be men "of the cloth," not mass murderers. And this article mentions that Rockwell... was one of a very few confidantes of Smith who never had any sort of falling out with the early Mormon leader. He advanced gradually in the church's lay priesthood, becoming a deacon at age 25 and later a seventy (a position in the LDS priesthood that was discontinued in recent decades).

Evidential Item #5:

* Mormon FR poster DelphiUser described Rockwell this way: "Porter Rockwell, a mountain man, and a sheriff (I live near Porter's Place, good steaks there). Not a man you want to cross, but honorable, tough guy living in frontier times, killed when he had to, arrested when possible."
DU, Feb. 27, 2006

On 29 January 1863 Colonel Patrick Edward Connor and about 200 California Volunteers attacked a Northwestern Shoshoni winter village ...

These were a group of regular army troops held in reserve to defend the west if necessary during the Civil War. For about 150 years, the Mormon Church has tried to place the blame for the Bear River massacre solely on them rather than take any responsibility for the tragedy. A careful analysis of the facts indicates this is not true. Consider the following:

The war with the Shoshone's was started by the Mormons. A Mormon horse disappeared ... an 11-year Indian boy was discovered nearby and was accused of the theft ... the boy did not speak English and was unable to offer a defense ... although several in the Mormon party pointed out that the boy had been fishing in the river nearby when he was taken and had a large stringer of fish, making it unlikely that he was involved in the crime in any manner ... nevertheless, the Mormon party lynched the boy ... the missing horse was discovered a few hours later a couple of miles away - it had wandered off - there was no theft ... the boy's father was one of the chiefs of the Shoshones ... the father was justifiably outraged and embarked on a program revenge despite the pleas of Chief Washakie (the head chief of the Shoshones).
The army was led to the massacre site by Porter Rockwell, the Mormon's Destroying Angel (pictured above). According to most accounts, he was accompanied by a number of Saints. Also according to almost every account, Port and his comrades murdered numerous Indians as they tried to escape.
The Army / Mormon atrocities were incredibly brutal. For example, according to Shoshone historian Payton Lee:
The militia broke the arms and legs of women so they couldn't fight back while they were raped. Bayonets cut open the wombs of pregnant women and pulled out the fetus. Some of the militia wrapped the fetus around their hats as war trophies. After the women were raped the militia men split their skulls open with hatchets. Babies and toddlers were grabbed and their heads bashed against trees. Chief Bear Hunter was beaten, kicked, stripped and whipped bloody. When he did not cry out in pain or anguish to his tormenters, a soldier heated his bayonet and ran it through Bear Hunter's ears. ... Anything the militia could not steal and plunder was put to the torch including the last of food staples for any survivors.

You can read more about the massacre from numerous sources. I recommend you begin with this somewhat whitewashed account by LDS historian Will Bagley: Bear River Massacre Continues to Haunt Utah / Mormon History After 140 Years.

Say what you will, Mormons make great neighbors! </sarc>

All I can tell you is that the feds pulled out most of their troops at the start of the Civil War. Both of my GGandfathers fought as volunteers in the resulting Indian Wars.

My Great grandfather received a Medal, a Commendation, signed by President Grant, and pension. So take that as you will.

Yes. It must be terrible when the governor of a state issues an order for you to be exterminated ...

#1...

Except Most of the Mormon murderers mentioned by Zakeet in his list occurred in...

UTAH!

And some other such murders occurred in other states beyond of Missouri -- the state you reference

#2...

To add even more to the complexity of why people acted as they did, the Lds Church History; Selections from the Encyclopedia of Mormonism adds three more reasons:
(a) Sidney Rigdon's June 19, 1838 "Salt Sermon" reinforced local Mormon opposition;
(b) Lds militia officer Sampson Avard initiated a vigilante group known as the Danites
(c) Rigdon's July 4, 1838 "inflammatory" sermon was the independence of the church from mobocracy. Rigdon "warned of a war of extermination between Mormons and their enemies if they were further threatened or harassed." (Leland H. Gentry, Church History, p. 343). Lds writer Max Parkin conceded that Rigdon's June 19 and July 4 messages "further incensed the public against expanding LDS influences." (Church History, p. 348).

Certainly, what we almost NEVER hear from contemporary Mormon posters is that apparently the first group to threaten the other with "extermination" in Missouri wasn't Gov. Boggs. 'Twas Lds leader Sidney Rigdon four months prior to that!

#3...

Even Mormon authors in good standing debate how the word "exterminate" -- as expressed by Missouri Gov. Boggs (who, btw, was probably shot and almost assassinated by Porter Rockwell at the instigation of Jospeh Smith) -- was defined:

From an FR-posted article from Nov. 15, 2010:
"Mormons are quick to point to Missouri Governor Bogg's Mormon "Extermination Order" but fail to consider Sydney Rigdon's "Salt Sermon" about trampling and hanging dissenters, the role of slavery, the historical events that led to Bogg's order and the latter attempt on his life. What most people miss is the correct definition of "extermination" in the 1835 time period. Webster's Dictionary of 1828 under "exterminate" has: "Literally, to drive from within the limits or borders. Hence, 1. To destroy utterly; to drive away...."
Source: Nov. 15, 2010

I added back then: George W. Givens, a Mormon author, likewise pointed this out in his book 500 Little-Known Facts in Mormon History:
"Latter-day Saints have universally condemned the notorious Haun's Mill Massacre by a mom-militia shortly after Missouri Governor Boggs issued the infamous extermination order...a second look at the definition of the word "exterminate" as it was used in 1838, however, might cause us to take a second look at Governor Boggs as well. An American Dictionary of English Language, published in 1828, defines "exterminate" as "literally, to drive from within the limits or borders." (p. 26) Bonneville Books, 2004

But, hey, I can understand why Mormon leaders haven't encouraged grassroots to actually study Mormon history on their own beyond the "faith-promoting" crap bottle-fed by Mormon leadership in Salt Lake City!

It must be terrible when the governor of a state issues an order for you to be exterminated ...

Extermination order. Wasn't LDS leader Sydney Rigdon the first to use the term "extermination" with reference to "gentiles"?

Sorry. Posted before reading the entire thread.

She had been a member since she was 8, and was 60 at the time. She wasn’t ‘strange’ but a ‘worthy’ temple worker an a ‘pillar’ by appearances. Reality was vastly different. she was a widow, but they were married in the temple etc. Her neighbors said the same thing about her, how nice she was etc but they didn’t have to live with her either.

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