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1 posted on 11/13/2013 4:40:54 PM PST by Kaslin
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2 posted on 11/13/2013 4:49:11 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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bh0 will order Reid not to go ‘wobbly,’ but to stand fast and teach those ignorant masses who actually runs this country and is giving them what they wanted when they re-elected him.


3 posted on 11/13/2013 4:50:27 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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RedState says the Upton bill is a trap:

EXCERPT:

IT’s A Trap!
Republicans are walking into a trap and they don’t even realize it.

They are about to consider, in the House of Representatives, legislation by Congressman Upton that would allow people to keep their insurance plans.

There’s a problem though. It is widely acknowledged that Congressman Upton’s legislation is more messaging than substance. His legislation does not have anything in it that can force insurance companies, in the topsy-turvy world of Obamacare, to keep insurance plans going.

But there is a plan than does. Senator Mary Landrieu has written legislation in the United States Senate that the Democrats love. It mandates insurance companies have to keep people on their present insurance. The GOP is supposedly against mandates and against government forcing private businesses and individuals into contracts they don’t want.

Here’s what is going to happen.

The House, with the help of a good number of Democrats, will pass the Upton plan and send it to the Senate. Harry Reid will substitute the Landrieu plan and send it back to the House. The House will be forced to either vote for the Landrieu plan or be characterized as siding with insurance companies against people.

In one fell swoop, the Democrats will have the GOP on record saving Mary Landrieu’s re-election in Louisiana by casting her as the one who saved Americans’ health care plans, and also getting on record as really being in favor of fixing Obamacare with the use of mandates.

In truth, Obamacare is not fixable. The only solution is to fully repeal it. The Republicans should not be helping Democrats with their re-election plans, which is all the are doing with Upton/Landrieu.

The GOP is walking right into the trap.

http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/13/its-a-trap/


4 posted on 11/13/2013 4:50:48 PM PST by SC_Pete
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I expect republicans to once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


7 posted on 11/13/2013 4:57:57 PM PST by Nanny7
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how many will die because of this?


8 posted on 11/13/2013 4:58:04 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Several Democrats have signed onto a proposal sponsored by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) that would force insurance companies to let people keep their health plans if they like them.

Ah, it's the evil insurance companies that's responsible. Have to "force" them to undo what Obamacare forced them to do.

10 posted on 11/13/2013 5:02:18 PM PST by Hugin
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Harry was a boxer and will try to beat them into submission


12 posted on 11/13/2013 5:04:36 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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I wonder if McCain will granted a exemption to attend as a Democrat wanna-be...

After all the Obama administration has used him as tool several times before...

Mostly giving them the ability to report it was a bipartisan effort...

19 posted on 11/13/2013 5:19:43 PM PST by Popman
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Remember this golden hit from Dingy and reporter Dana Bash?

Wow. What this is all about is Obamacare. They are obsessed. I don’t know what other word I can use. They’re obsessed with this Obamacare. It’s working now and it will continue to work and people will love it more than they do now by far. So they have no right to pick and choose..

Harry (the booty) Reid 10/2/13

20 posted on 11/13/2013 5:25:48 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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We know that you all are up for re-election in 2014.

We know that you are tempted to badmouth Obamacare in order to shore up your chances for re-election.

There's more riding on this than your puny reputations and careers...the grand welfare state of the U.S.S.A. is at stake.

You will continue to support Obamacare or your families will pay the price.

21 posted on 11/13/2013 5:30:52 PM PST by Washi
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if this is the fustercluck that purchasing the insurance has caused, imagine what using it is going to be like.....


23 posted on 11/13/2013 5:34:41 PM PST by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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Several Democrats have signed onto a proposal sponsored by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) that would force insurance companies to let people keep their health plans if they like them.

The ONLY way to do this is to get the governments friggin' fingers OFF of health care and let health care providers package their plans the way THEY want to, and let the market decide which plans succeed and which plans fail.

This will never happen, unfortunately....government creates a problem through regulation, then steps in to 'correct' the problem through more regulation.

Get your friggin' hands out of the health care system!!!!!

24 posted on 11/13/2013 5:34:42 PM PST by Washi
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Several Democrats have signed onto a proposal sponsored by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) that would force insurance companies to let people keep their health plans if they like them.

The only thing that Leftists understand.

25 posted on 11/13/2013 5:36:23 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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"Crisis:
Reid calls “special meeting”
of Senate Democrats on ObamaCare"




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27 posted on 11/13/2013 5:37:34 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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If there’s no avoiding a shinola-eating vote in December, why not take a more politically popular one now on “keep your plan” to mitigate the damage?

THAT'S Raciss!!!!

28 posted on 11/13/2013 5:40:32 PM PST by publius911 (At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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So the Congress can compell a private citizen to buy a product, under penalty if the force of government and now they can command a company to sell a product to anyone they deem?

How in the Fk does that work?

Is this Russia, the new USASR or are we A Constitional Republic bound by its charter?

This makes no sense.

If the government isn’t bound by its laws why are its citizens?


30 posted on 11/13/2013 5:44:41 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Friday House Dems will be voting on a bill. It is most likely goi g to get to a veto-proof majority (because, seriously, who would vote NO on a “you can keep your plan” vote in this political landscape?)

So, Senate Dems need to figure out WTF they are going to do - and fast... If the vast majority in the House passes this bill, does the Senate just not bring it up and face the media backlash that will follow?

Or, do they propose their own bill and have some of them be the ones who designed the bill thatsent Obamacare into a death spiral?

One of the two options needs to happen, and they need to be prepared for it before Friday if they are going to have any influence in the House

Their F*ed


33 posted on 11/13/2013 5:52:27 PM PST by Nahhh I Dont Think So
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Thursday will convene a special meeting of the Senate Democratic caucus and senior White Officials to discuss the troubled rollout of ObamaCare…

These people should be put in jail for the harm that they are causing to the citizens of this country.......

43 posted on 11/13/2013 6:11:00 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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Several Democrats have signed onto a proposal sponsored by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) that would force insurance companies to let people keep their health plans if they like them.

The only thing that Leftists understand.

44 posted on 11/13/2013 6:11:11 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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Adopt the Democrat’s mandated policy of “NO NEGOTIATIONS”. It’s their OBAMACARE. Let them be held accountable.


48 posted on 11/13/2013 6:18:43 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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