ISON UPDATE/Large Debris Moving Fast.

www.youtube.com ^ | Dec 4, 2013 | BPEarthWatch

[Yosemitest]

"then your source mentions the geminids in an attempt to imply that we are getting ison debris."

Where?
Give me a link.

He differentiated between the Geminid Meteors and those coming from 46P/Wirtanen.
He also said that our danger from Ison wouldn't start until around the third week of December.

[Darksheare]

Arizona fireball.
It was a Geminid.
http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=16&month=12&year=2013
Article centerish of page “geminids subsiding”.
It is hard to link on a mobile phone.

[Darksheare]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3098429/posts?page=333#333
Bottom of your own post , claim that the arizona fireball wasn’t typical...
It was fairly typical of geminids.

[little jeremiah]

Okay, I want to know when there will be another visible-to-the-nekkid eye comet. They interest me.

Of course I live where there is cloud cover much of the winter and mountains to the south and east and west, and 100 plus foot tall fir trees all around, so...

I’ll have to make a big effort to see one but I will if one gets itself up in the sky.

[Darksheare]

None predicted or known unless comet Lovejoy decides to surprise and put on a show.
Saw hale-bopp and hyakutake back when.
Didn’t get pics as i didn’t have a camera at the time.
This time when ison got bright enough, i had clouds.
*grr*
Also had clouds for most of the meteor shower.
Lovejoy has closest approach to the sun next week.

[Darksheare]

Okay.. There are 226 comets available to oggle.
Catch is, you need a 6 or 8 inch telescope to see many of them.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wAsOPehUPfc
Video raises a good question about why the fuss over ison..but has an animation showing some of said 226 comets.
Has a webpage addy under that animation.
http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/mpc.html

[little jeremiah]

Thanks, Darksheare. No telescope here, need a nekkid-eye visible one.

I remember in the 90s a couple of them, people on the street (lived elsewhere with no mountains or tall trees) were looking and I got to peep in others’ telescopes.

[Darksheare]

No telescope here either.
Found an 8 inch dobsonian at www.celestron.com for $449.
Aperture is technically 7.87 inches though.
Had a telescope once, way back.
It got broken when we moved.

[Yosemitest]

WRONG!
Read it again.
It clearly addresses that it was from 46P/Wirtanen .

"" ... Traveling at 45,000 mph, it was too slow.
“A Geminid moves at 78,000 mph,” he said."

Also, did you catch Fox and Friends, or the reports on the Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News ?

What you saw across the Alabama sky tonight was 'definitely a fireball;' Twitter reacts (video)

"Definitely a fireball; time was Dec 18 at 02:20:40 UTC or Dec 17 at 8:20:40 PM CST. It started out 52 miles above I-24 just south of Manchester, Tennessee and moved to the north of west at 50,000 mph. We lost track of it at an altitude of 23 miles just to the northwest of Shelbyville, Tennessee."

Check out the video at the 13-second mark.

Fireball in Trussville,AL ( 1:00 )

Fox & Friends said a NASA expert said after viewing the video that it was traveling around 50,000 milers per hour.
Sounds like 46P/Wirtanen to me.

[Yosemitest]

It came in at the wrong angle and from the wrong direction to be a "Geminid", as well as being the wrong speed.

[Darksheare]

No it did not.
Show proof independant of bpearthwatches vague claims, misrepresented images, circles pointing out things not at all what he claims them to be, or part of the nibiru idiocy group.
In other words, dedicated PhD meteor people who do know what they are talking about.
http://fireballs.ndc.nasa.gov/
http://meteor.uwo.ca/research/radar/cmor_intro.html <===Canadian source, no NASA there to be terrified of!
http://meteor.uwo.ca/research/fireball/whatisfireball.html
Again, learn what you are talking anout before telling us we are wrong!

[Darksheare]

No matter how often you claim I am wrong, your sources are heavily flawed.
And massive liars looking to con people.

“Definitely a fireball; tim”
Yes, nothing intrinsically different about that!
And it was a Geminid in Arizona!

[Darksheare]

When ison fails to kill is, will you apologize?

[Darksheare]

http://www.imo.net/docs/images/vdemo3b-270.png
Image: do you think the streaks are from the same meteor source or a different source?

[Darksheare]

MrCometWatch, a.k.a. BPEarthwatch tried to convince people once that the Pleiades, comet 45P Honda, and the Lagoon nebula were all "Dark Star Elenin".
Anyone can mislabel, misrepresent images, or outright photoshop/photochop and lie to try and convince the gullible of their claims.
Being taken in by a liar and then defending said liar is the same as having told the lie yourself.

[Darksheare]

Out of all the known near earth objects and known 226 or so comets, someone decides to latch onto ISON as something “magic”.
Why?

On December 18, 2013 there were 1446 potentially hazardous asteroids.
Recent & Upcoming Earth-asteroid encounters:
Asteroid Date(UT)Miss DistanceSize
2013 XY8 Dec 11 2 LD 50 m
2013 XS21 Dec 11 0.2 LD 6 m
2013 XT21 Dec 11 1.1 LD 15 m
2013 XU21 Dec 14 6.1 LD 26 m
2013 XH22 Dec 18 1.9 LD 27 m
2011 YD29 Dec 28 6.1 LD 24 m
2007 SJ Jan 21 18.9 LD 1.9 km
2012 BX34 Jan 28 9.6 LD 13 m
2006 DP14 Feb 10 6.2 LD 730 m
2000 EM26 Feb 18 8.8 LD 195 m
2000 EE14 Mar 6 64.6 LD 1.8 km

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wAsOPehUPfc#t=45

Out of all of that, why be afraid of ISON which is NOT at all coming towards us in any way shape or form?

[Darksheare]

http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/lists/InnerPlot2.html

Out of all of that, ISON is what idiots latch onto to be afraid of?

[Darksheare]

http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/Animations/Inner_2011.gif
Animated gif of the plot.
Out of all of that, people latch onto ISON...

[Darksheare]

Let the non-scriptural BS, lies, and fictional crap flow!

[NoCmpromiz]

Hubble Looks but Finds No Trace of Comet ISON