Posted on 12/09/2013 2:17:19 PM PST by dontreadthis
Close to 100 legislators from 32 states met in Mount Vernon, Va., Saturday to discuss the possibility of adding amendments to the U.S. Constitution through a convention of the states.
Such a convention, as outlined in article five of the Constitution, would allow state legislatures to vote on amendments to add.
Two-thirds of the state legislatures, or 34, must approve an application for a convention to occur, according to the Constitutions article five. State legislatures would then send delegates to the convention, each state getting one vote on proposed amendments. For an amendment to pass and become a part of the Constitution, it would have to be approved by three-fourths, or 38, of the state legislatures.
Lawmakers on Saturday discussed term limits on U.S. lawmakers and certain limits on federal taxation and spending as possible amendments, Red Millennial noted.
State legislators stressed Saturday the bipartisan nature of support for the discussed amendments, citing a recent poll that shows 74 percent of Americans support a balanced budget amendment while another 75 percent support congressional term limits.
Saturdays Mount Vernon meeting was organized by Indiana state Sen. David Long and Wisconsin Rep. Chris Kapenga. Close to 100 legislators from 32 states met in Mount Vernon, Va., Saturday to discuss the possibility of adding amendments to the U.S. Constitution through a convention of the states.
No constitutional amendment has been added this way, but some say the Constitution specifically allows for states to use the convention as a means to push back against the federal government.
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Well said.
The Framers gave us a peaceful means to oppose tyranny that was not available in 1775.
History will not look kindly on a people who gaffed off their responsibility.
If Article V fails . . .
Unless that amendment stipulates that ALL members of the body delaying a balanced budget amendment are stripped of salary and perks for as long as said budget is beyond deadline. All pay accrued during such time is forfeit. This includes ALL Federal employees furloughed during any Govt shutdown. All that happened this last time amounted to an extra paid vacation...
“...just ratify Mark Levins book.”
coupled with force.
Because we understand that Congress has demonstrated that it is unwilling to pass a budget despite being required by law to do so, and thus would also be unwilling to pass a budget under a balanced budget amendment, an Amendment to address this situation must be crafted to by-pass Congress and leave no room for error.
Mark Levin has suggested the following: (p.73)
“Section 2: Shall Congress fail to adopt a final fiscal year budget prior to the start of each fiscal year (snip), and shall the President fail to sign said budget into law, an automatic, across-the-board, 5 percent reduction in expenditures from the prior year’s fiscal budget shall be imposed for the fiscal year in which a budget has not been adopted.”
So, if a budget is not passed, the government will shrink, thus accomplishing the intent of an Article V convention that has as its purpose to reign in the size and scope of the Federal Gov’t.
We keep the Central Valley.
I cannot help but feeling that an Article V Convention will at least be a waste of time, at most a travesty.
Federalist 85: “We may safely rely on the disposition of the State legislatures to erect barriers against the encroachments of the national authority.”
Although I am a fan of Hamilton, his opinion was based on an educated populace that loved liberty. We do not have the same people nor the same government that he was advocating.
We are now a post-17th Amendment society awash in love of government manna, debt, adoration of a new messiah and constitutional ignorance, in sum may be the most ignorant generation in world history.
Remember the role and power of the national media. Obama won re-election despite the debt and failures. What does that tell you about today’s political machine?
For an Article V convention to be successful, dealing with the national media must be the first consideration.
... Lawmakers on Saturday discussed term limits on U.S. lawmakers and certain limits on federal taxation and spending ...
It’s about time!!
My faith comes first. Christ before King and Country, as it were. The two are now at odds now, quite obviously.
The best way forward, it seems to me, is to divide the territory and other assets/debts and to form a new country that is overtly God-centered. One Amendment in our new Constitution should be that Muslims cannot be American citizens, nor can Atheists. In order to be an American citizen one must confess the existence of God and the fact of a final judgement. We don't have to require heavy creeds or anything. I have no problem with, say, Hindus or Buddhists etc. being good Americans, inasmuch as adherents of those faiths confess a Higher Being and eternal answerability for our actions on Earth.
But Muslims can't be Americans even though they confess to believe in God because they to the marrow of their being don't believe in freedom of religion. They also think that molesting little girls is okay, so long as you marry them.
Atheists can't be Americans because they don't believe in Nature's God. Self-proclaimed Marxists can't be Americans because they're Atheists, and also like Muslims reject freedom of conscience.
Liberals are Marxists (whether they know it or not) and it follows that they aren't Americans. And that's all told over half the voting population, probably significantly more of the non-voting population. We have to end this thing if we hope to survive intact as Christians.
This is my country. I want them out. I don't want them as countrymen, friends, family. I want to be shut of anybody and everybody who voted for Obama in 2012.
Forever and ever, and unto ages of ages. Amen.
Sounds like you advocate a sharia-Christian government.
So, I'm just in agreement with the Founders who, for example, would not have allowed an atheist to testify in court. They certainly would not have allowed Satanists to have any sort of recognition by placing a display on OK state capitol.
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