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GAINING STEAM? NEARLY 100 LAWMAKERS DESCEND ON MOUNT VERNON TO TALK CONVENTION OF STATES
The Blaze ^ | Dec. 9, 2013 | Becket Adams

Posted on 12/09/2013 2:17:19 PM PST by dontreadthis

Close to 100 legislators from 32 states met in Mount Vernon, Va., Saturday to discuss the possibility of adding amendments to the U.S. Constitution through a convention of the states.

Such a convention, as outlined in article five of the Constitution, would allow state legislatures to vote on amendments to add.

Two-thirds of the state legislatures, or 34, must approve an application for a convention to occur, according to the Constitution’s article five. State legislatures would then send delegates to the convention, each state getting one vote on proposed amendments. For an amendment to pass and become a part of the Constitution, it would have to be approved by three-fourths, or 38, of the state legislatures.

Lawmakers on Saturday discussed term limits on U.S. lawmakers and certain limits on federal taxation and spending as possible amendments, Red Millennial noted.

State legislators stressed Saturday the bipartisan nature of support for the discussed amendments, citing a recent poll that shows 74 percent of Americans support a balanced budget amendment while another 75 percent support congressional term limits.

Saturday’s Mount Vernon meeting was organized by Indiana state Sen. David Long and Wisconsin Rep. Chris Kapenga. Close to 100 legislators from 32 states met in Mount Vernon, Va., Saturday to discuss the possibility of adding amendments to the U.S. Constitution through a convention of the states.

No constitutional amendment has been added this way, but some say the Constitution specifically allows for states to use the convention as a means to push back against the federal government.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: article5; articlefive; articlev; mountvernon; virginia
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To: GraceG

Well said.

The Framers gave us a peaceful means to oppose tyranny that was not available in 1775.

History will not look kindly on a people who gaffed off their responsibility.

If Article V fails . . .


41 posted on 12/09/2013 5:25:33 PM PST by Jacquerie (Now launch the Constitutional Spring! Support an Article V Amendment Convention.)
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To: Antoninus II

Unless that amendment stipulates that ALL members of the body delaying a balanced budget amendment are stripped of salary and perks for as long as said budget is beyond deadline. All pay accrued during such time is forfeit. This includes ALL Federal employees furloughed during any Govt shutdown. All that happened this last time amounted to an extra paid vacation...


42 posted on 12/09/2013 5:30:23 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: GraceG

“...just ratify Mark Levin’s book.”

coupled with force.


43 posted on 12/09/2013 5:39:55 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Antoninus II

Because we understand that Congress has demonstrated that it is unwilling to pass a budget despite being required by law to do so, and thus would also be unwilling to pass a budget under a balanced budget amendment, an Amendment to address this situation must be crafted to by-pass Congress and leave no room for error.
Mark Levin has suggested the following: (p.73)
“Section 2: Shall Congress fail to adopt a final fiscal year budget prior to the start of each fiscal year (snip), and shall the President fail to sign said budget into law, an automatic, across-the-board, 5 percent reduction in expenditures from the prior year’s fiscal budget shall be imposed for the fiscal year in which a budget has not been adopted.”
So, if a budget is not passed, the government will shrink, thus accomplishing the intent of an Article V convention that has as its purpose to reign in the size and scope of the Federal Gov’t.


44 posted on 12/09/2013 5:52:18 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Ghost of SVR4

We keep the Central Valley.


45 posted on 12/09/2013 5:52:57 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Gluteus Maximus

I cannot help but feeling that an Article V Convention will at least be a waste of time, at most a travesty.

Federalist 85: “We may safely rely on the disposition of the State legislatures to erect barriers against the encroachments of the national authority.”

Although I am a fan of Hamilton, his opinion was based on an educated populace that loved liberty. We do not have the same people nor the same government that he was advocating.

We are now a post-17th Amendment society awash in love of government manna, debt, adoration of a new messiah and constitutional ignorance, in sum may be the most ignorant generation in world history.

Remember the role and power of the national media. Obama won re-election despite the debt and failures. What does that tell you about today’s political machine?

For an Article V convention to be successful, dealing with the national media must be the first consideration.


46 posted on 12/09/2013 6:11:56 PM PST by Loud Mime (Living Orwell's nightmare)
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To: dontreadthis

... Lawmakers on Saturday discussed term limits on U.S. lawmakers and certain limits on federal taxation and spending ...

It’s about time!!


47 posted on 12/09/2013 7:02:23 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Loud Mime
The fact that Obama was re-elected proves to me that the USA - at least as it is currently constituted - is not in my interests as a Christian.

My faith comes first. Christ before King and Country, as it were. The two are now at odds now, quite obviously.

The best way forward, it seems to me, is to divide the territory and other assets/debts and to form a new country that is overtly God-centered. One Amendment in our new Constitution should be that Muslims cannot be American citizens, nor can Atheists. In order to be an American citizen one must confess the existence of God and the fact of a final judgement. We don't have to require heavy creeds or anything. I have no problem with, say, Hindus or Buddhists etc. being good Americans, inasmuch as adherents of those faiths confess a Higher Being and eternal answerability for our actions on Earth.

But Muslims can't be Americans even though they confess to believe in God because they to the marrow of their being don't believe in freedom of religion. They also think that molesting little girls is okay, so long as you marry them.

Atheists can't be Americans because they don't believe in Nature's God. Self-proclaimed Marxists can't be Americans because they're Atheists, and also like Muslims reject freedom of conscience.

Liberals are Marxists (whether they know it or not) and it follows that they aren't Americans. And that's all told over half the voting population, probably significantly more of the non-voting population. We have to end this thing if we hope to survive intact as Christians.

This is my country. I want them out. I don't want them as countrymen, friends, family. I want to be shut of anybody and everybody who voted for Obama in 2012.

Forever and ever, and unto ages of ages. Amen.

48 posted on 12/09/2013 7:28:04 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Sounds like you advocate a sharia-Christian government.


49 posted on 12/11/2013 1:15:18 AM PST by Loud Mime (Living Orwell's nightmare)
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To: Loud Mime
I don't think so. I do believe that the Founders assumed that our Republic is designed for people who believe in God and fear Him. They also acknowledged that reasonable minds can disagree on the particulars, but as to the basic fact that there is Nature and Nature's God and that we will be held personally to account for our actions by God they assumed unanimity.

So, I'm just in agreement with the Founders who, for example, would not have allowed an atheist to testify in court. They certainly would not have allowed Satanists to have any sort of recognition by placing a display on OK state capitol.

50 posted on 12/11/2013 6:53:48 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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