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Obama has begun repealing Obamacare
Washington Post ^ | 12/23/13 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 12/24/2013 2:50:44 AM PST by Libloather

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To: mosaicwolf; Liz
Does anyone really think Obama signed up for the Bronze Plan?

No. But someone signing up someone else is more than likely fraud. I fully expect charges to be filed. (Can you imagine someone doing that on your behalf?)

41 posted on 12/24/2013 5:48:15 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Liz

Liz - great. Thanks. Do you have any for our two socialist senators in Virginia? Kaine and Warner?


42 posted on 12/24/2013 5:49:54 AM PST by Arlis
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To: pepsionice

Yup. I said all along that Roberts was playing chess while Obama was playing checkers. Now, should Roberts have been “playing” at all? Given what the alternative probably would have been - complete politicization of the SCOTUS (even more so than it already is) - I’d have to say “yes.”

Obamacare - or rather the backlash to it - is the one thing that might turn this country around. (Well, that, and a return to faithfulness to God.)


43 posted on 12/24/2013 5:55:38 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Libloather

I decided to forego health insurance beginning in January. I figured I wouldn’t have to pay the penalty because I don’t get tax refunds. I always end up owing at the end of the year.

I just learned yesterday that the bronze plan for my wife and I will cost more than 8% of my income, which means we are exempt. Yep. We’re too rich to get it subsidized, but I’ve lowered my TAXABLE income to the point where we can actually be legally completely uninsured in a world of Obamacare.

Pretty funny.


44 posted on 12/24/2013 6:08:25 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Libloather

As bad as this year was for Obama and the D’s, next year will be absolutely catastrophic.


45 posted on 12/24/2013 6:09:13 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Gaffer
I agree with your assessment.

It is obvious Congress is completely helpless. All they seem to be able to do is propose "new legislation" to outlaw what 0bama is doing but he is thumbing his nose and already merrily doing it. Harry Reid will ignore legislation and even if it were somehow passed 0bama would never sign it.

The GOP? They've already given up fighting over the budget and deficits so that is no longer a threat to the agenda. 0bama's on a roll, and things are going even better than he expected, IMHO. He'll have this country in chaos and the Democrats and the MSM propaganda organs trumpeting single payer within six months. He will simply "make it happen", ignoring Congress (whom he is already ignoring) and do it using 0bamacare legislation which he is changing daily anyhow. Any legal shackles on this were left lying in the dirt long ago and nothing is going to happen in the courts to stop this for years, if ever.

Who's going to stop him? The feckless Gutless Old Party? The GOP-e is not even bothering to fighting back. They're passive, allowing things to play out, hoping they don't lose any political capital or get criticized by the media and they figure the prize falls into their hands in the end, when they expect to "win" in 2014.

The 2014 elections? Don't make me laugh. The voting system is now massively corrupted and rigged where it counts. Electronic voting machine fraud, massive voter fraud in key areas, and early get-out-the-vote schemes and last minute absentee ballots with little or no oversight have assured this. Besides, there is NO WAY the GOP even if they win the Senate is going to over ride 0bama's veto and there will never be enough votes to impeach him. The GOP couldn't be more deluded.

Tyrants never go away unless they are forced to do so. We are in a new paradigm we haven't seen since just after the French and Indian Wars. The solution (if it is implemented) is going to lie outside our normal course of business.

46 posted on 12/24/2013 7:15:37 AM PST by Gritty (Liberals think living your life free of welfare, EBT, and government nannies is "cheating"-J Hawkins)
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To: Liz
Add to your list Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill (Demoncrat).

She has been one of the chief advocates for Obamacare.

In August 2012 Senator McCaskill told KOMU that if Missourians liked their plans they could keep their plans.

Cordially,

47 posted on 12/24/2013 7:27:32 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Libloather

Amazing to watch how many S sandwiches democRat supporters & the MSM will eat.

As eager students of political history, the Rats are playing the 3 learned strategies of “people will eventually forget this and move on,” “slow walk things away,” and “just hold on and wait for the next big Squirrel” [stock market crash, major earthquake in LA, Middle East blow up, etc].

How long can this go on?..........


48 posted on 12/24/2013 7:40:42 AM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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To: pepsionice

Nice observation. Well done.


49 posted on 12/24/2013 8:06:17 AM PST by thoolou ("Technology is driven by those who understand it the least" - Unknown)
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To: Liz

Wow. PoliAdd gold. But will the Stupid Party use it? My hopes are not high...


50 posted on 12/24/2013 8:14:12 AM PST by thoolou ("Technology is driven by those who understand it the least" - Unknown)
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To: Alberta's Child

I think you’re overly critical of business. Insurance in this country began around WWII where the government implemented wage controls. In order to attract more and better workers, companies started to offer insurance as a benefit whose price could not be set by the government.

Moreover, if I were a businessman or a CEO in a large global company, there are still many positions which I think would benefit from offering insurance to the employee. I think it’s just one more piece of the overall package for employees that breeds comfort, continuity, loyalty and stability in that part of the workforce that cannot be replaced at the drop of a hat.

If business in general is relieved of its ability to offer this incentive, one could imagine a workforce that is entirely arbitrary and capricious in its loyalty and willing to work at any particular job. Stop work on Friday, start somewhere else on Monday with no notice because they offer 10 cents an hour more. That’s exactly what our food service labor market is like now in many cases, except where the illegals have infested the workforce.

With a government mandated separate insurance policy, one could envision a dramatic turnover in many businesses - bottom line: lost productivity, higher training costs, higher HR costs, higher everything. Not good.


51 posted on 12/24/2013 8:59:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Jim Noble

Nothing in what you wrote contradicts what I said. The whole thing needs to go- all government involvement in medicine beyond constitutional duties to guarantee weights and measures. If it did go away we would have in short order the most rapid advance and the cheapest medicine in the world and in history. Consider Lasik.


52 posted on 12/24/2013 1:46:12 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Libloather
And every moment when the administration has been faced with either mandating something or surrendering on this bill, they’ve surrendered each time.

Wrong. The House defunded Obamacide and then Republicans surrendered.

53 posted on 12/24/2013 1:47:31 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Libloather

Obastard’s been quietly repealing Obastardcare for his buddies with exemptions since before the ink dried on his signature.


54 posted on 12/24/2013 1:52:09 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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