Posted on 12/26/2013 7:11:38 AM PST by count-your-change
Believe it or not, the first cold fusion power plant is now available to pre-order. The E-Cat 1MW Plant, which comes in a standard shipping container, can produce one megawatt of thermal energy, using low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR) — a process, often known as cold fusion, that fuses nickel and hydrogen into copper, producing energy 100,000 times more efficiently than combustion. It sounds like E-Cat is now taking orders for delivery in early 2014, priced fairly reasonably at $1.5 million. Has cold fusion — the answer to all our energy needs — finally made its way to market?
(Excerpt) Read more at extremetech.com. ...
Trying to see how many syllables you can cram into a sentence does not make you an intellectual, buddy. It just makes you look pretentious.
How many houses do you think a 1MW plant is going to service? A power plant that size needs to be located close to the load.
“I am not assuming these are, or are not, charlatans.”
There’s your problem. You obviously aren’t knowledgeable about the characters involved in perpetrating this fraud. This story isn’t about scientists researching actual cold fusion technology. It’s about a con artist trying to fleece investors.
OK, we were talking about coal plants, they use fuel measured by the metric ton, that plant you set near the source of fuel.
If you have a magic power plant that does not need fuel, then there is no advantage to being near a fuel source. But if that magic power plant uses steam turbines, nobody is going to want it in their neighborhood plus big turbines make power for less money than a bunch of little ones so you still end up with a big plant sending power over wires. Even if the magic doesn’t come any bigger than 1 Mw, you’d use multiple units to feed steam into a big turbine.
Since a couple of billion dollars are invested in infrastructure, new power plants will probably be on or near the sites of the old ones.
There you go again!
"Many charlatans". "Many honest people". And "many who become Steve Jobs, Ben Franklin, etc."
You persist in using language that suggests that the number of charlatans is roughly equal to the number of scientific geniuses. This is simply not true and you do a great disservice to people who don't know better and who might look to you for advice. For every Ben Franklin there are thousands of people ready, willing, and able to take peoples' money with fraudulent claims.
Please tell me what category you would put Rossi in and why.
There is a market for 1MW power plants, but the competition in that market is not going to be coal-fired. It’s going to be something that can be piped, like natural gas.
Yeah but that market is driven by government regulation, not markets.
Wait... Are you telling me a " of an E-Cat Home Unit" is not enough proof for you?
Maybe I could pay for it with bitcoins?
All I’ve seen is hype so far.
you obtuse ass….I meant many “inventors “are charlatans, and many are honest inventors, visonaries, etc….
You knew that, but apparently you are so insignificant as to have time to babysti forums without doing other more important things at the same time.
Go collect your EBT cards and your pajama boy cocoa
One can be pretentious and an intellectual……the two are not mutually exclusive….oh, wait….did I cram too many syllables for you?????
It's the market, regardless of what's driving it.
Well, you sure told me off, didn't you?
In the future I will attempt to understand what you mean without assuming that I can do that by understanding what you wrote.
I'm still curious to know into which category you place Rossi?
The only generation going in in the megawatt range I’m aware of is the fuel cell plants data centers are putting in. Not because they need the power or even because it saves money but because they call it green.
I think fuel cells are cool but the entire concept of; burning NG in a very expensive fuel cell equals green but doing so in an equally efficient plant on the grid is not green, is so outrageous, I have difficulty accepting it as “the Market” but that is my problem not yours.
Can I get one with a Turbo Encabulator too?
1MW standalone powerplants are generally used for backup power, or providing power to remote locations like mining or reasearch facilities that are “off the grid”. It sounds like in those applications using one of these cold fusion units will still require putting in some kind of conventioal fuel 200KW power plant to provide the input to maintain the reaction. Does the $1.5M include the cost of installing that?
The research will continue and some minor patents sought “just in case” someone, somewhere, sometime produces something useful but that’s about all despite the breathless announcements of secret sales to secret customers from secret factories.
More grist for the humor mill.
This is actually rather old news. For some reason it is getting a burst of attention on the internet.
But, if it really does work, they need a demo.
***Like I said, this is old news.
http://ecatnews.com/?p=2578
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