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To: Armen Hareyan

This is what gets me about the anti-supplement jihad.

For every person who is even made sick by taking supplements, probably TEN THOUSAND die from prescription drugs!

Prescription pain killers/sleep aids/anti-psychotics kill far more people in this country than supplements and/or illegal drugs combined.

Way, way more.
Many times more!


13 posted on 12/29/2013 12:49:36 AM PST by djf (Global warming is a bunch of hot air!!)
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To: djf
The pain killer issue is the by-product of several factors. The first being One Day Surgery. Not so long ago surgery meant hospital stay and medication was given and pain addressed before discharged.

The second one is chronic pain suffers who despite medical science best efforts will hurt and be in considerable life long pain because from medical advances they survived what a couple of decades ago would have been a fatal accident, incident, or disorder.

Third is doctors due to pressures placed on them by insurers do not have the time to do extensive histories and work ups that may give a clue as to why the person hurts.

I have a cousin with a severe heart condition. By severe I mean the doctors told him to get his affairs in order they can do no more. He also has arthritis in his legs. Due to an insurance change he lost his primary care doctor and was unable to get another one due to the new insurance so called network provider list. He ran out of pain medication which he took sparingly.

He went to an ER his last primary care doctor and Cardiologist was associated with as a last resort asking for just enough meds to tie him over till he found another doctor. He was treated like some junkie off the street doctor shopping despite the fact the ER attending had full access to his medical records. Neither his previous doctor nor his cardiologist were consulted which brings up another issue in this. He left the ER in pain and no medication. He thought he was doing right by going to a place where his medical records were at.

Doctors today again thanks mainly to insurance mandates making them see more patients per day just to keep their doors open in the practice no longer make hospital rounds. You get Doctor of The Day likely contracted by the hospital or if you're real luck contracted by your primary who at least answers to your primary care doc. Your primary doctor will likely have no knowledge of your issue until he gets a report days later.

Government as much as possible needs to leave health care alone. The more government gets involved the worse things get for everyone. As for insurance? Congress should not only repeal Obamacare but the Kennesdy HMO Acts as well.

15 posted on 12/29/2013 1:18:09 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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