Why I fled libertarianism — and became a liberal(puke)

Salon ^ | December 28 2013 | Edwin Lyngar

[Tzimisce]

Why I vote liberal:

1) I have brain damage.
2) I died and the guy in my precinct is stuffing the ballot.
3) I’m homeless and being bribed with cigarettes.
4) I’m illegal and they said something about giving me welfare.
5) I’m a fictional character and liberalism works in my world.
6) I’m crazy and the guy busing me to the polling place told me to pull the lever with the donkey.

[2ndDivisionVet]

[detective]

“the good things about libertarians. They are generally supportive of the gay community, completely behind marijuana legalization and are often against ill-considered foreign wars”

This idiot is not a libertarian. He is a Ron Paul supporter and Ron Paul delegate. He likes Ron Paul supporters because they are pro gay, pro drugs, etc. But he concluded they were in his own words “nuts”.

This idiot Ron Paul delegate appears to have never held a job. After supporting Ron Paul in the primary he concluded the Ron Paul delegates were too crazy even for him. A Ron Paul organizer in charge of the group referred to Ron Paul delegates as “clowns”.

After supporting Ron Paul in the Republican primary he changed his registration to Democrat and became an Obama supporter.

This whiny brat has never done anything useful in his life. He has no understanding of what he is supposed to be talking about. He is a typical Ron Paul delegate.

[JaguarXKE]

This one will have you spewing for both accuracy and distance!

[sickoflibs]

From the frying pan to the fire!

[AmericanExceptionalist]

I am guessing that this change from libertarian to liberal was not the result of some sudden epiphany; but that this former delegate to the Ron Paul convention had gradually found himself siding more and more with the left, on a variety of issues.

In the end, however, he was able to dress up this conversion in some moralistic garb...

[GraceG]

A “Fair-Weather Libertarian”, I have known many they understand the concept of “leave me alone” but only when it suits other people meddling with them and not the other way around...

[Rinnwald]

Self check: yep, I still want people to starve to death.

Guess I’m a cartoon conservative in Libworld.

[Valpal1]

39 yrs old and he goes back to school for “Creative Writing” Wow, what a man, what a provider

There's the answer right there. He got tired of pulling the wagon and decided riding in it was easier.

He's going to get an easy peasy degree and then start looking for a comfy government job.

[hosepipe]

When you believe in nothing you can believe in anything..
Then going from libertarian to socialist is not a great leap..
-OR- vice versa...

[ObamahatesPACoal]

It reminds me when Pat Buchanan took Chris Matthews to task when the bitter clingers supported Hilary over Obama.

“Did you make the same statement about the 92% of black women who voted for barack obama in philadelphia. Did you ask them how many years of education they had?”

This RP delegate was probably a plant.

[GraceG]

[ Self check: yep, I still want people to starve to death.

Guess I’m a cartoon conservative in Libworld. ]

I want poor people to starve to death...

I will admit it!

But I have to add in that I want poor people who are dumb idiots, the ones that are helped out but refuse to improve their own damn lives and instead take constant advantage of the involuntary charity of others.

But I do not want them to die by the hand of any government rounding them up and euthanizing them... Instead I want them to die by starvation because we consciously decide to refuse to help them anymore after the 32nd chance we have given them given them and they refuse to lift a finger of their own to even take the simplest action to save themselves after multiple warnings...

Yeah, I want poor people to starve to death... Because I am a complete monster!

[Mortrey]

Well, Edwin, I hope you don’t have a gun AND beer in your house at the same time, ‘cause the obamanation administration will see to it that your children are taken away, by way of ICD-9 in the obama-scare unaffordable act.

(Hope you don’t like beheadings, decapitations by guillotine, either...although I hear the moslems LOVE them!)

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/11/icd-9-international-medical-coding-legal-execution/

[Mortrey]

“...I started losing respect for the movement while watching the financial meltdown...”

Does he mean when 80 BILLION suddenly disappeared from the stock market in Sept of 2008 RIGHT before the election???

I’m still convinced Soros withdrew his $$$ to INSURE a Hussein victory.

[freerepublicchat]

“He became a Democrat because, in his words, “I began to think about real people, like my neighbors and people less lucky than me. Did I want those people to starve to death? I care about children, even poor ones.””

But if there's a moral imperative that the government help those in need, why stop with neighbors, or fellow townspeople, or fellow Americans? Why not just give everything to everyone in need all over the world?

Most mature adults realize there should be limits and that there is no limit to what a "generous" government will give away. That's how we get to a $17 trillion debt.

Libertarians aren't against helping. They're against the state telling them who to help and with how much.

[GladesGuru]

“Self check: yep, I still want people to starve to death.

Guess I’m a cartoon conservative in Libworld.”

A question for Libworlders: Didn’t Jesus say those who would not work would not eat?

[kcvl]

He has always been a lying liberal. Who does he think he is fooling?

“From the ashes of the election rose the movement that pushed me from convinced libertarian into bunny-hugging liberal. The Tea Party monster forever tainted the words freedom and libertarian for me. The rise of the Tea Party made me want to puke, and my nausea is now a chronic condition.”

“There are a lot of libertarians in the Tea Party, but there are also a lot of repugnant, religious nuts and intolerant racists. I had absolutely no desire to ever be linked to this group of people.”

[hal ogen]

To lefty idiots “intolerant” means “not agreeing with me”.

[kcvl]

Edwin Lyngar...

“I also don’t put in the time in for “career” that I might otherwise. In fact, I’ve deliberately kicked my own career ambitions in the nuts a time or two because I refuse to pay the real cost of chasing the almighty dollar. I think this is a pleasant side effect of my correct priorities. Sadly, I regret giving short shrift to a few civic groups to which I used to be a more active (sorry, *Reno Freethinkers)”

*Reno Freethinkers, Atheists, Agnostics, Skeptics, and Humanists

If you’re looking for Reno atheists, agnostics, skeptics, humanists, or just a community of freethought that promotes secular values in Reno, we’re your group. We meet on the last Wednesday of every month, and encourage you to join us at our next Meetup regardless of your beliefs, we only ask that our members come with an open mind.We’re also happy to point our members towards our sister group, the Reno Skeptics, who focus less on secularism and more on promoting critical thought in all aspects of life.

[kcvl]

He is an atheists which explains a lot. Plus, he is married to his second wife who is a liberal attorney from Canada.

It sounds like the guy doesn’t have any principles that he has stuck with. He is ever evolving as the wind blows.

“When I married my current wife, Joy, more than six years ago, I asked her to take my last name. I imposed despite the fact that she was already an attorney with an established reputation. But, we were in love, and it meant something to me, so she just did it without complaint. Thinking about it over the years, I now wish I could take back the request. I wish I knew then that most of the traditions of marriage are a kind of oppression, especially for women. I love being married, but the process of getting married and so much of the expected roles of wives and husbands is just social control masquerading as tradition.”

“Very shortly after we married, I went into the wedding business myself. Joy’s friend, a judge from a neighboring state, needed to become a certified minister to perform our wedding ceremony, and the unnecessary religious hoops bothered me. So I got certified as a secular wedding official in Nevada where I live”

Warning: Introspective, writerly, year-end shit
Posted on December 29, 2013 by Edwin Lyngar

Here at the end of 2013, I have to examine what has been a pretty prolific writing year for me, topped off with an article I wrote for Salon. That piece has gone viral and continues to dominate my time. I didn’t see it coming, but it’s a great finish to the year.

The lesson I put in play this year is that writing should not be some self-congratulatory, yank fest (aside from this blog post). Rather, writing should be about giving the reader something. Sure you can’t even start the process if you don’t have some need or reason to do it, but you also can’t just write for yourself—and hope to publish.

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Here’s a list of the articles I published this year, through the Good Men Project, Role Reboot and the big finish on Salon (and republished on Alternet).

Why I fled libertarianism — and became a liberal
A Christmas Cluster
When Will This Country Take Better Care of Families
The Problem of Men’s Rights and Child Support
A Call to Feminist Dudes
The Oppression of Tradition
A Father’s Identity: I Don’t Know Who I Am Without My Kids
I Could Get Away With Murder
Raising Secular Kids in a Religious World
Why Aren’t More Men Portrayed in the Media
Real Men Don’t Watch Sports

This list doesn’t even include the many blog posts and other writing that I do that doesn’t get picked up by a third party. I write, often self-indigent shit, for my atheist blog. I don’t do that for the reader. I do it for me, and that’s the difference between writing for an audience versus writing for fun.

http://blog.edwinlyngar.com/warning-introspective-writerly-year-end-shit/#more-132