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Obamacare Confusion Reigns as Frustrated Patients Walk Out of Hospitals Without Treatment
The U.K. Daily Mail ^ | Thursday, January 2, 2014 | David Martosko

Posted on 01/02/2014 3:06:08 PM PST by kristinn

Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people on a frigid Thursday morning because they can't determine whether their Obamacare insurance plans are in effect.

Patients in a close-in DC suburb who think they've signed up for new insurance plans are struggling to show their December enrollments are in force, and health care administrators aren't taking their word for it.

In place of quick service and painless billing, these Virginians are now facing the threat of sticker-shock that comes with bills they can't afford.

'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.

She was leaving the building without getting a needed chest x-ray.

'The people in there told me that since I didn't have an insurance card, I would be billed for the whole cost of the x-ray,' Galvez said, her young daughter in tow. 'It's not fair – you know, I signed up last week like I was supposed to.'

The x-ray's cost, she was told, would likely be more than $500.

Galvez said she enrolled in a Carefirst Blue Cross bronze plan at a cost of about $450 per month through healthcare.gov, three days before Christmas.

'No one has sent me a bill,' she said.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testified in a December 11 congressional hearing that the federal government can't say how many new enrollees have written checks for their first month's premiums.

'Some may have paid, some may have not,' she conceded.

It's unlikely that a valid insurance card would have changed Galvez' fortunes, however.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; obamacare
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To: sheana

Yeah, but you see, she prolly did not know that. Lets face it. The democrats and the media hid all the the details of Obamacare and how it would work. For this to work, they should have spent the last 3 years on information so that people would understand it.

They did not because they know it sucks. It sucks and that is what pleases the democrats. They want people to suffer.

And that is what will happen. Sad thing if it is a member of your family. Expect no sorrow from them. Power is their goal. A coffin is the goal they plan for you and yours.


121 posted on 01/02/2014 5:39:30 PM PST by dforest
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To: Pearls Before Swine

That being true, she could get 49 or so more X-rays and still have to pay for all of them .... of course, only at the lower negotiated rate!!!!!!


122 posted on 01/02/2014 5:41:30 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Some people might call it a confidence game or swindle, others call it ObamaCare!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
Since Ms. Galvez sought treatment in Alexandria, Virginia, she probably voted for Obama to rob her, and she probably thinks it is the Republicans who are robbing her!

The Republicans and those evil, GREEDY, fat cat insurance companies!

123 posted on 01/02/2014 5:44:42 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: xzins
Does ObamaCare pay 100% after the deductible or it is then on some kind of 70/30 for the remainder or the next 10 grand? Anyone know?

I work for a medical facility. A patient told me about a week ago that her obamacare policy would be 50/50 after the deductible of 11,000 for her family is met. That is with a $750/mo premium.

I do not know this woman so I can't vouch for what she said.

124 posted on 01/02/2014 5:44:55 PM PST by alnick
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To: kristinn
Again, The Brits are doing the job American media won't do


125 posted on 01/02/2014 5:45:05 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: kristinn

Actually, it sounds as if the CommieCare is working out as designed.


126 posted on 01/02/2014 5:46:17 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Some people might call it a confidence game or swindle, others call it ObamaCare!)
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To: alnick

It could be true. Lots of times you pay the deductible and then a percentage up to a maximum and then they pick up 100%.

That means people are paying far more than the media is reporting. No one has a policy this bad until now.


127 posted on 01/02/2014 5:54:34 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Reeses

Many hospitals are asking for the deductible to be paid up front. They’re pretty well experienced with people running out on their bills.


128 posted on 01/02/2014 5:59:06 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Christian1
...is Barak Hussein shi.ting golf balls?

No, he's far. ting them.

129 posted on 01/02/2014 6:05:36 PM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Secret Agent Man

What’s funny is she has a $5500 deductible anyway.


130 posted on 01/02/2014 6:07:04 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Kozak

Too cheap to buy the platinum policy...

#anteupforBaraq


131 posted on 01/02/2014 6:08:34 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: kristinn

Share your weatlh and now share your health, hey stop reading this and get back to work you need to pay more tax dollars to the government so that the people here illegally can get medical care and foodstamps. You need to pay to make sure that those illegals kids can get a good education and compete with your kids for the few jobs in the future, so get goin now. You need to work harder and pay higher taxes. Share the wealth so that the lazy stay at home hoodlum can call his baby mamma on his Obamaphone, and tell that ho to sell some foodstamps and pick him up a pack of Kools and a dime bag on her way home from the salon. She got her hair did today using her EBT card. On her way back to her Obamahome she’s gonna trade some of her kids milk and cereal she got from WIC, for a couple of hits on the crack pipe, and don’t worry if she gets sick she already signed up for her Obamacare medicaid plan so her STD treatment is now courtesy of the taxpayers too, isn’t Obama so generous with all our hard earned money....


132 posted on 01/02/2014 6:11:46 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The fundamental transformation resistance is futile you will be assimilated.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
it is not a full 100% after deductible, it’s 70/30 or 80/20, and all plans have co-pays split like this for procedures and meds.

I believe some of the plans are 60/40 after the deductible is met.

133 posted on 01/02/2014 6:14:22 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Washington: "I cannot tell a lie". Obama: "I cannot tell.....I lie")
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To: kristinn

She signed up, never made any payment, then expects free care.


134 posted on 01/02/2014 6:15:31 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Jane Long
Nah, you're all too invested in the payoffs (from your lobbyist buddies) to actually try to repeal this abomination.

REPEAL you say?? He and his band of GOP-e leaders JUST FUNDED O-CARE IN THEIR BUDGET AGREEMENT WITH THE CLOWN!!!!!!!!!!

The only stomach they have is for holding show votes in the HOUSE knowing Reid and his Senate will throw the bills in the trash basket.
What good is the GOP?
135 posted on 01/02/2014 6:17:33 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: WorksinKOP

That’s what I’ve heard from other BCBS PRIVATE policy holders. As far as the 0Care exchange folks, time will tell. I’m with JimRob on that, tho....NO WAY, NO HOW, NO THANKS ;)


136 posted on 01/02/2014 6:28:11 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: WorksinKOP
we purchased direct from BcBs

How's the premium compared to before?

137 posted on 01/02/2014 6:29:58 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Cheerio

Yep. That’s what I’m talking about regarding the crony capitalism/lobbyist payoffs that the GOPe is living large off on. As long as they receive our tax $$ - to fund this debacle - and the lobbyist perks, they could care less about our day to day lives.


138 posted on 01/02/2014 6:30:46 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: PATRIOT1876
Did I do that?

139 posted on 01/02/2014 6:35:27 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: steve86

I wish you the best of luck - with your docs and preferred hospitals staying in your plan. I don’t personally know anyone who has signed up for 0Care - please keep us posted.


140 posted on 01/02/2014 6:37:10 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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