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Why Pollard Will Die in Prison
ISRAPUNDIT ^ | Jan 6/14 | David Turner

Posted on 01/05/2014 9:39:03 PM PST by tedbel

I have chosen a provocative title for this article because nearing his fourth decade in prison for a crime all others similarly charged see freedom within four years, Jonathan Pollard is no more likely to be freed under Barak Obama than under George W. Bush before him or Bill Clinton before him. From today it seems no exaggeration that, barring a miracle, a young and idealistic American Jew who chose to spy for Israel will be forced to pay the ultimate price for his decision.

Jonathan Pollard had serious medical conditions at the time of his arrest in his twenties. He remains seriously ill in his fifties. And, as I suggested above, barring Divine Intervention or Israel agreeing to some extreme presidential demands bordering on extortion, Jonathan Pollard will die in prison.

Why Jonathan Pollard will die in prison

“The punishment imposed,” wrote Weinberger, “should reflect the perfidy of the individual’s actions, the magnitude of the treason committed...”

"As I say, the Pollard matter was comparatively minor. It was made far bigger than its actual importance." Pressed on why the case was made far bigger than its actual importance, Weinberger replied, "I don't know why-it just was." (Weinberger interview with Edwin Black, 2002)

I. The Legend begins

In a recent article appearing on-line Prof. Angelo Codevilla, a staff member of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time Jonathan Pollard was arrested is quoted:

“Having been intimately acquainted with the materials that Pollard passed and with the sources and methods by which they were gathered, I would be willing to give expert testimony that Pollard is guilty of neither more nor less than what the indictment alleges.”

The allegation of “treason” which is represented as having influenced DC Circuit Judge Robinson to impose the life sentence was included in Weinberger’s unclassified “supplemental” memo:

(Excerpt) Read more at israpundit.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dualloyalty; israel; justice; pollard; propaganda; reagan; treason
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1 posted on 01/05/2014 9:39:03 PM PST by tedbel
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To: tedbel

He was paid and also spied for Pakistan.

He also spied for South Africa.


2 posted on 01/05/2014 9:42:29 PM PST by gaijin
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To: tedbel

Long live Edward Snowden.


3 posted on 01/05/2014 9:59:10 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: gaijin

Arguably, every member of CONgress is a treasonous piece of dog dung.


4 posted on 01/05/2014 10:02:51 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil
Long live Edward Snowden.

There's a qualitative difference between Snowden and Pollard - Snowden revealed the extent and depth of US spying on US citizens to us. Pollard spied on the US for a foreign government. I'm very much in favor of a strong Israel, close allied to the US, but I don't believe even the US's strongest allies should be allowed to suborn US citizens and persuade them to spy on the US. Pollard is where he belongs - in prison.
5 posted on 01/05/2014 10:05:12 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: kiryandil

Snowden is a traitor. No ifs ands or buts.


6 posted on 01/05/2014 10:12:51 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

My understanding is that some of the secrets Pollard revealed ultimately ended up in the hands of the ChiComs.

Once you lose control of secrets, there’s no telling where they wind up.


7 posted on 01/05/2014 10:15:23 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ifinnegan

Dianne Feinstein is a traitor. I don’t hear you quacking that, n00b.


8 posted on 01/05/2014 10:17:45 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Pollard, assuming his guilt, deserved to go to jail. The only issue then is why we keep him there so much longer than others who did same thing. But since Obama has spied on Bibi so much now that Bibi can’t even discuss affairs of state with his staff in his office in Jerusalem ( except in a special secured secret shielded room), same with chancellor Merkel in Berlin whose phone he bugged, and other allies of USA. Obami spies on our allies while he gives arms and money to almost any sworn enemy of America ( so long as it is a islamoNazi type terror gang). By their fruits you shall know . See also new international poll that America is now the number one threat to world peace as see. In both Europe and Asia. I don’t trust polls but the problem is clearly resident in Washington DC now.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 10:23:39 PM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Snowden is offering to provide information on classified US programs to foreign states, in return for compensation.

Sounds like treason to me.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 10:29:30 PM PST by donmeaker (A man can go anywhere on earth, and where man can go, he can drag a cannon.)
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To: kiryandil
Dianne Feinstein is a traitor. I don’t hear you quacking that, n00b

All rats and RINOs are traitors. It goes without saying.

11 posted on 01/05/2014 10:55:59 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: kiryandil

If snowden had revealed what he did, but revealed it between 2000 and 2008, would you have sung his praises? Do you think the NSA only started spying after Bush/Cheney left office?


12 posted on 01/05/2014 11:04:44 PM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: tedbel
a young and idealistic American Jew who chose to spy for Israel will be forced to pay the ultimate price for his decision.

Jonathan Pollard had serious medical conditions at the time of his arrest in his twenties. He remains seriously ill in his fifties.

Seriously ill until he is released.

This is an obviously biased piece trolling for an uninformed reader.

13 posted on 01/05/2014 11:33:20 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: tedbel

Pollard was railroaded by Casper Weinberger. Pollard was promised a plea bargain with a short jail time in exchange for a plea. Weinberger doubled crossed him, however, and the government withheld important facts that spoke well for his defense. Pollard will almost certainly be shown to have been a hero in the light of history:
Freedom from prison is long, long overdue.
Pollard was railroaded by Casper Weinberger. He was promised a plea bargain with a short jail time in exchange for a plea. Weinberger doubled crossed him and the government withheld important facts that spoke well for his defense. Pollard will almost certainly be shown to have been a hero in the light of history:

People who spied for enemies of the U.S. were given short terms, but the Jew a life sentence for helping the U.S.’s best and technically helpful and strategically helpful ally in the whole world. The U.S. handling of the Pollard case has been a travesty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard
https://www.facebook.com/justice4jp

All other people who gave classified information to other countries, gave the information to enemies of the U.S. and they were given short terms, but the Jew a life sentence for helping the U.S.’s best and technically helpful and strategically helpful ally in the whole world.


14 posted on 01/05/2014 11:55:37 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

I hear you, and I agree with you completely.

Way past time for Pollard to be set free.


15 posted on 01/06/2014 12:32:09 AM PST by Bobalu (The true secret to genius is in creativity, not in technical mechanics)
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To: tedbel

He should have died in prison in the 80’s.


16 posted on 01/06/2014 12:41:39 AM PST by OldNewYork
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To: tedbel

“nearing his fourth decade in prison for a crime all others similarly charged see freedom within four years”

A thirty five year sentence for Chelsey Elizabeth Manning, and he’s only a woman.


17 posted on 01/06/2014 12:48:09 AM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
A lot of traitors get less punishment than they deserve, which is unfortunate. Other people's crimes don't absolve Pollard of his crimes. He betrayed his country, and he deserves to be punished. Contrary to what you say, the USSR and Pakistan were not allies of the U.S. in the 80s. Pollard's efforts could have helped the U.S. get nuked. Pollard only started observing Judaism to help escape punishment. He was actually kind of anti-Semitic before. The U.S. is helping Israel by imprisoning him. Israel should execute Pollard in it's own right for betraying him.

Pollard is supported by people like James Woolsey, who is an evil, anti-American man. Woolsey protected the most terrible spies against the U.S., like Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen

18 posted on 01/06/2014 1:06:14 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: donmeaker
Snowden is offering to provide information on classified US programs to foreign states, in return for compensation.

According to Snowden, he didn't - he claims he never passed any documents to Russia or China, though a Chinese newspaper has made that claim. If the government has proof that Snowden passed on classified documents to a foreign nation, for pay or for free, then he absolutely belongs in prison as a traitor.

But to the extent that Snowden has revealed to the US public the capabilities and practices of US government surveillance of innocent citizens, Snowden has performed a public service. And by the very fact that these practices are taking place, the federal government has limited credibility with me when it comes to accusations of treason against Snowden. I want to see the evidence.
19 posted on 01/06/2014 1:14:17 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: nickcarraway

You have attacked the admirable James Woolsey and accused him in a terrible way. The reality is that Woolsey’s career is exemplary and one of a patriot. Does Woolsey’s strong support of Israel and of a strong military irk you, Nickcarraway? Is that what is really bothering you as you pursue the neck of Jonathan Pollard?

James Woolsey’s career is stellar:

The following link to Woolsey’s bio and values is well worth the read in its entirety:
http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/woolsey_james

Foundation for Defense of Democracies: Board Chair
Committee on the Present Danger: Co-Chair
Center for Security Policy: Former Honorary Co-Chair....much, much more


20 posted on 01/06/2014 2:11:58 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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