Posted on 01/15/2014 5:09:04 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
Edited on 01/15/2014 6:21:09 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Well, what does that say about public confidence in police officers, if his status as a former one is an automatic strike against his credibility, in so many peoples’ eyes?
If shootings of this nature go down as justified, it won’t be long before they do come for our guns.
So far everyone here has failed to mention a very important point which is:
If you are the one who started the argument and things go bad, you forfeit the right of self defence.
From the news thus far, it is a guess, but my guess is that Reeves must have gone beyond the simple request to be quiet.
He left his seat to go somewhere, whether to his car or to find the manager, which in itself indicates really deep anger....so I suspect his words to the victim were extreme.
If that is the case, he did create the confrontation and that prevents him from claiming self defence.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised.
“The sheriff said Reeves’ gun jammed after the first and only shot was fired.”
Kind of curious what make the 380 was. He could have “limp wristed” the shot and it wasn’t neccessarily a problem with the weapon.
The guy who did the shooting is the same guy who started the confrontation. There was no way he was gonna walk away from it. He had a point to make. Put him in jail and be done with it.
This is exactly right...
yep
This is the first ive heard of that - isn’t that premeditation?
People here are smart enough to follow the posts. They are not the sheep that you accuse them of being.
That being said it still doesn’t mean that he didn’t premeditate the shooting after the manager dismissively thanked him in a patronizing way.
He left the auditorium, had time to think about it, got the apparent brush off from management, then returned, continued the argument and pulled his gun.
And then there is this:
“Greiner said the gun was jammed and could not have been fired again. He was unsure whether Reeves planned to fire a second shot.”
Dick Deguerin got Billy Joe Shaver off for shooting a man in the face in a bar parking lot following a "heated discussion" inside ("WHERE DO YOU WANT IT?"). The shooting victim lived.
Dick Deguerin has also represented David Koresh, Robert Durst, Tom DeLay...
"He was acquitted in a Waco court on April 9, 2010 after testifying that he acted in self-defense"
“Honestly... I have a carry and conceal. I don’t shoot and kill someone who throws popcorn on me. But that’s me. “
Agreed. Sounds like 2 hot heads met in a theater and one brought popcorn to a gunfight. In a polite society this would have ended very differently. This was stupid all the way around.
Another thing to digest about the witness testimony, the “witnesses” in yesterday’s reports didn’t even know who threw the popcorn (although it was in the police report that the shooting victim threw it).
This is the first ive heard of that - isn’t that premeditation?
It isn't premediation. It is malarkey and didn't even happen.
I don't imagine that this many was holding his phone above his head. More likely, if he was texting, it was held in front of him or on his lap. How would the light bother anyone ?
As for the 'click', I have a cell phone, it doesn't make any noise when I text. Even if you have one that does, you can turn it off.
I'm sure neither statement was even close to that...
That was my first thought, “when A-holes collide”.
shiny.
I didn't see that specified in the article.
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