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Young Liberal: As Much As I Support Obamacare, I Just Can't Afford It
Townhall.com ^ | January 17, 2014 | Guy Benson

Posted on 01/18/2014 4:03:19 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Libloather

Indeed. The $100/month phone takes a lot of sympathy away from this dweeb.


41 posted on 01/18/2014 7:33:25 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Kaslin
Obamacare is pretty much the train wreck promised. That being the case.....why on earth are our Congressmen/women and our Senators not shutting this monstrous expensive program down? Because Obama is the first Negro POTUS? That is surely part of it the rest being politics, expensive politics, not health care not even close. Power? You bet.

Call your Governor and elected, demand they stop the monetary hemorrhaging by shutting this Very Bad Socialized Medicine Bill DOWN!! As long as Congress and Senators won't and don't have to buy Obamacare, why on earth should any American

42 posted on 01/18/2014 7:38:30 AM PST by yoe
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To: Libloather
"Early on, Metallica couldn’t even afford bread."

They were destitute. They even had to drink Whiskey In The Jar.

43 posted on 01/18/2014 7:38:49 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: raybbr
"Hand sandwiches?"

The Left invariably winds up eating their own. Perhaps they can start by eating themselves this time.

44 posted on 01/18/2014 7:52:36 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Kaslin

Hey, young lib, we tried to warn you; you would not listen. Live with it!


45 posted on 01/18/2014 7:58:52 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: kitkat

Lady fingers are the best!!


46 posted on 01/18/2014 7:58:56 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: informavoracious

Yeah, but could he have gotten that restaurant job without his masters degree? I wonder what his field is. Perhaps something with the word “studies” in it?


47 posted on 01/18/2014 7:59:58 AM PST by Bob
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To: Kaslin

48 posted on 01/18/2014 8:31:36 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7/365! Obamaganda will fail 24/7/365!)
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To: rawhide

I have 30 year old twin sons who are single, students, and, as part time/hourly workers, not presently covered by an employer plan. Both to my eternal chagrin are tepid Obama supporters (hopefully they’ll outgrow it). One would not be eligible for health insurance due to a “pre-existing condition;” the other is seemingly as healthy as the proverbial horse.

Guess which on signed up for Obamacare and which one didn’t?


49 posted on 01/18/2014 8:46:18 AM PST by EDINVA ( m)
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To: Jim Noble

“The entire conceptual foundation of Marxism is false. It’s a shame nobody studies it anymore.”

Why do you think that is? Fall of the Soviet Union contribute to the decline in the need to study this?

I get your point on the freeloader rebelling against capitalism. Hardcore Marxists would not say that in public b/c to use such words would be enough for there remaining average US citizens to turn them out. Language is used covertly to advance their agenda, even if leftists have to contradict themselves. In a society of high volume info delivery and overload, people’s inability to absorb, learn, reflect and decide, people are divided and there is no recognition of leftist deception at work to further their power.


50 posted on 01/18/2014 8:48:12 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: jocon307
I’m surprised he has a car, but since he does he’s probably got coverage for any car-related injuries under that policy.

For $50 per month he probably gets liability only.

51 posted on 01/18/2014 8:54:58 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: yoe
why on earth are our Congressmen/women and our Senators not shutting this monstrous expensive program down?

That's simple.

The lies are even deeper than most people know. One of the worst is that the GOP Members (on the whole) oppose Obamacare and want it repealed. They don’t, and the reason why discloses the biggest lie of all.

The Medicare Act of 1965 issued a guarantee of Federal payment for all “usual, customary, and reasonable” medical services, WITHOUT LIMIT. Using a standard static, socialist analysis they looked at what seniors had paid out of pocket, voluntarily, from 1956-1965 and figured the government would not be on the hook for a whole lot.

But that promise to pay without limit created a huge industry, bigger than the defense industry, that in an explosion of dynamic capitalist creativity discovered, invented, and marketed an immense array of useful, life-improving or even lifesaving products.

There are too many to list, so take one - the $60,000 pacemaker/defibrillator. In 1964, had they existed and had they been sold under a free market, very, very few seniors would have paid the $60,000 to get one. The necessary inventive and developmental work would never, never, have come about without the certainty of “free money” to purchase as many of them as could possibly be needed.

Now, whether or not these devices are good or bad, or are overused or underused, is not my point. On that issue, YMMV.

Without the socialist guarantee of money without limit, the capitalists would never have created them, just like Glastron would never offer aircraft carriers on the open market.

The socialists in Congress in 1965 knew, I believe, that Medicare would (somehow) smash capitalism. But, being socialists, they did not anticipate all the creations of the medical-industrial complex that would start to incur deficits as early as 1984.

Since the Great Compromise of 1986, Congress has paid for all this by borrowing or printing money. All of them, Republicans and Democrats alike, understand that they’ve created a monster and that their foundational promises of 1965 were lies, but none of them have a clue how to end it.

Obamacare is the answer for this generation of Congressthings. Everything that everyone knows is wrong with it is true, including that it cannot possibly work. But they don’t care about that. They needed to “do something”, and they did.

We cannot “go back” to 2008, because in 2008 the “system”, because of the promise to pay for anything capitalism could create, without limit and with OPM, was on a collision course with reality.

If you favor going back, which I do on most days, you have to go back to 1964 and redo Medicare with some kind of budget limit. And to do that, the “government hands off my Medicare” people are going to have to wise up.

52 posted on 01/18/2014 8:59:07 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Kaslin

Welcome to the party, pal. I told you so.


53 posted on 01/18/2014 9:07:51 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: jocon307

Obama told him his plan would only cost about $100 per month. Now they want $600?


54 posted on 01/18/2014 10:10:59 AM PST by sheana
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To: jocon307

Ooops misread $300.


55 posted on 01/18/2014 10:13:09 AM PST by sheana
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To: Jim Noble
I just came across your answer to my question.........."If you favor going back, which I do on most days, you have to go back to 1964 and redo Medicare with some kind of budget limit."

Great answer and doable if everyone was on board...which isn't gonna happen, I don't think. My spouse thinks the mess Obamacare is in was planned to get us on Single Payer ASAP...with that in mind...“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Dessert, in 5 Years there’d be a shortage of sand” Milton Friedman

Medicine with limits well in place, can be partnered with narrow Gov. aid, led by the States. Personally I believe government should leave education to the individuals; students who have to work for an education would truly appreciate it more. Government is too involved as it is now. Getting the Gov out would save billions...and yes I can see the battle from the left in order to hold onto power.

56 posted on 01/20/2014 11:58:01 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Of course, everybody is not on board.

But, on board or not, the destructive ramifications of Medicare (open-ended spending commitment destroys budgeting)will continue until the whole thing falls over.

I wrote what I wrote to explain the mysterious Republican “opposition” to Obamacare, an opposition that does everything EXCEPT anything that might be effective.

A better way to explain it is that the Republicans UNDERSTAND the need to end the Medicare commitment, and they REALIZE that Obamacare will do that, and they HOPE that the Democrats will be blamed, but they KNOW they have no idea about what to do themselves, so they might as well go along.


57 posted on 01/20/2014 12:12:55 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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