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Study Finds People with Guns More At-Risk for Suicide and Homicide
daily beast ^ | january 20, 2014 | Brandy Zadrozny

Posted on 01/21/2014 10:46:44 AM PST by lowbridge

Now, a new meta-analysis of gun research—the first systematic review of its kind—from the University of California, San Francisco, published in Annals of Internal Medicine today, has seemingly put an end to the debate over safety, at least in terms of suicide and homicide. Pooling results from 15 investigations, researchers found that a person with access to a gun is unequivocally less safe in terms of intentional death. Those with the ability to get to a gun are three times as likely to commit suicide and twice as likely to be the victim of a homicide than people without access. 

Previous studies that include population level estimates have pegged the risks as even higher.

Guns are the most popular and effective method of killing—both of oneself and of others. Around 31,000die by the gun annually and gun deaths make up over half of all completed suicides and over two-thirds of all homicides.

The study found that access to guns had a different effect on men and women. Men were nearly four times more likely to commit suicide than when firearms were not accessible, while women were almost three times more likely to be victims of homicide.  And while men make up over three quarters of suicides and homicides overall, women with firearm access are more than twice as likely to be a victim of homicide than a man with gun access, mainly because of the increased threat of domestic violence.  

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KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; secondamendment
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To: lowbridge
1) It's easier to commit suicide with a gun than with a coat hanger.

2) Homicide by firearm usually occurs when the victim loses a gunfight.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

41 posted on 01/21/2014 11:20:24 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: jmacusa
OK, those too.

42 posted on 01/21/2014 11:22:03 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: lowbridge

Note that the suicice rate among police officers is incredibly high - much higher than the population at large. And the majorijy of police officers own handguns as a job requirement. I wond if this could skewer these statistics.


43 posted on 01/21/2014 11:29:35 AM PST by circlecity
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To: lowbridge
Pooling results from 15 investigations, researchers found that a person with access to a gun is unequivocally less safe in terms of intentional death.

Did it ever occur to the educated idiots that they may have put the cart before the horse? Those at greater risk of intentional death arm themselves in an attempt to forestall that fate.

44 posted on 01/21/2014 11:30:33 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: lowbridge

That’s becasue without a gun you cannot commit homicide easily.

One could go 70 years without a gun, and suddenly find out you have Terminal Cancer. Then you go buy a gun.... and months later you commit Suicide.

Padded stats.

the Chicago gun free zone should have the crime statistics of Mayberry.......but it doesn’t


45 posted on 01/21/2014 11:33:02 AM PST by 4Speed
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To: lowbridge

So these researchers didn’t do any research.

Pooling previous 15 studies (! some may not be scientific studies at all) and a summary does not count as a study.


46 posted on 01/21/2014 11:37:54 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: lowbridge
Guns are the most popular and effective method of killing—both of oneself and of others.

They forgot Bambi..

47 posted on 01/21/2014 11:41:43 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: lowbridge
Pooling results from 15 investigations,...

I say that's a valid sample, especially with 10 of those "investigations" coming from Sarah Brady's group.

I'm guessing on the later, because I can't find the raw data.

5.56mm

48 posted on 01/21/2014 11:42:16 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: lowbridge

Headline: Gang members more likely to be involved in shootings.


49 posted on 01/21/2014 11:42:44 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: the_Watchman

TX 2012 murder rate 4.4/100k.

NY 2012 rate 3.5/100k.

I don’t have numbers for gun murders in these states as compared to total murders. But it seems likely that TX, with many more guns, has at least as many gun murders as NY.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state


50 posted on 01/21/2014 11:44:50 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: lowbridge

US homicides by weapon type

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Ushomicidesbyweapon.svg/800px-Ushomicidesbyweapon.svg.png


51 posted on 01/21/2014 11:46:40 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: lowbridge

“and twice as likely to be the victim of a homicide than people without access”

Did they happen to qualify this with LEGAL ACCESS???


52 posted on 01/21/2014 11:52:03 AM PST by G Larry
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To: lowbridge

It appears they did not bother to differentiate between those with legal access to guns and criminals/gang members.


53 posted on 01/21/2014 12:01:50 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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54 posted on 01/21/2014 12:03:38 PM PST by pabianice (LINE)
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To: lowbridge
The report, which was published in the Annals of Internal Medicine on Monday, reviewed research published between 1988 and 2005.

Okay -- so this meta analysis is based on studies between 9 and 26 years old. No new information, and no studies since the Obama bull market in firearms. The second problem I have is, how do the researchers know the denominator of their equation -- the percentage of households who have guns? The gangsters who own guns and aren't supposed to certainly aren't going to answer a telephone survey truthfully, and lawful owners are not likely to answer a question about their guns from an unknown person on the telephone.

The last time I looked, New Jersey and North Carolina, states with similar population demographics but widely differing firearms laws -- had surprisingly similar total homicide rates.

55 posted on 01/21/2014 12:26:07 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: showme_the_Glory

“Around 31,000die by the gun annually...”

Today’s Drudge headline: 55 million abortions since Roe v Wade (1972).

Guns aren’t even in the running for most popular.


56 posted on 01/21/2014 12:37:38 PM PST by DPMD
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To: lowbridge
And if you eliminate felons, drug dealers, and ghetto thugs from the study, what then is the result?

Is everyone aware of just how dangerous television sets are? Over ninety-nine percent of people who commit homicide or suicide watched a TV in the year prior.

And yes, I just made that up, but the truth is probably not far off.

Japan has far, far fewer guns than the US, and a suicide rate which is almost double ours. Why didn't their lack of guns affect their suicide rate? Does sushi cause suicide?

Perhaps it's because guns don't cause suicide.

57 posted on 01/21/2014 12:43:48 PM PST by William Tell
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To: lowbridge

Study finds people with cars are more likely to be in car accidents.


58 posted on 01/21/2014 12:44:54 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: lowbridge

The cherry pickers are hard at work. Given that this is an election year, no doubt we’ll see a bumper crop of cherries...


59 posted on 01/21/2014 12:45:36 PM PST by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: lowbridge

There’s an on-going problem. You get something that addresses the problem but doesn’t necessarily make it go away.

People who take insulin are more likely to die of diabetes-related complications than people who don’t take insulin.


60 posted on 01/21/2014 12:49:28 PM PST by heartwood
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