That's a lib statement.
What you're saying is that God that can create a world and everything in it, on it and above it but can't control what's written.
Btw,
Posted on 02/03/2014 10:35:02 AM PST by carlo3b
I FINALLY BELIEVE, IT IS THE WOMAN’S SOLE RIGHT TO CHOOSE..
For me, it came down to a matter of nature, and fairness. I thought it through, and in doing so, I made sure that I really thought it all the way through..
After all of my many years of standing on the sidelines and observing, as was what I have been instructed to do, as a man, I have concluded that it should be the ultimate decision of the woman to decide whether she should be a mother..
In balancing, deliberating, and reasoning, there was but one undeniable truth, if it was the genius of our reproductive system, and the female of our species was chosen by design, biologically, to bear the burden of child creation, she alone should carry the decision of whether she wishes to reproduce. As such, she alone carries the burden of who should be the sperm donor, where and when the reproductive act should transpire. FAIR, and EQUITABLE, RIGHT?
We all know, or at least we should take a great deal more into consideration before and after making that decision, about how important it is in choosing to have a child or children, how that child will be raised. But one step at a time..
Can we agree that the choice of becoming a mother carries more than a simple yes or no. Far be it for me to interfere with the dynamics that should be considered in a woman’s priority process, but the requirements in that decision, by nature and necessity, is how and why to choose the potential male donor, for a milieu of reasons. By carrying the SOLE access to the starting point of reproduction, also carries the sole responsibility for the results of that decision, the wellbeing of the resulting baby..
Assuming we are all on the same page, the donor (THE MALE OF THE SPECIES) has a limited, but vitally important contribution in the process, the seed, or sperm. The donor, has decisions to make as well, first and foremost, does he agree with her choice of him as the contributor, and her choice of where and when, and even in some cases, with all of the new technologies, how..
As a summary, how many choices are involved in the decision to reproduce for the woman; • Do I want to reproduce, or will the act be for some other reason that I should take the risk? • What are the criteria for choosing a potential mate, or participant? • Who will be the contributor, or partner, for whatever reason? • What planning, or precautions, if any, should be required before the act? • When and where the act should take place? • What will I do if the act has produced the intended results, a child? • What if the planning went awry and there are unintended consequences? • What if I become pregnant, who else should suffer the resulting consequences? • Are there any limitations on my decisions? • What if I didn’t plan, what are my responsibilities? • What is my last resort?
As we have outlined, there are a list of choices that a woman has with her reproductive activities, and natural tools to consider, all of which she has the ultimate choice to advance, or reject along the way. With all of these options, who should be responsible for her decisions, other than the one that made them?
So, since I had no choice, no rights to contribute to her decisions, and, unless I was the contributor to the act, leave me or anyone else that were forced out the resulting process, out f the problems, RIGHT?
GOOD LUCK, AND GOD BLESS
A man..
“This is not an ambiguous position. It is not a political issue. It’s not subject to debate.”
Ok, I can’t help but notice that Carlos3b has been banned. Ok, fair enough. For the most part, I find his posts to be sincere and that of a decent man. I don’t find them to be intellectually challenging but they are sincere and from a decent man.
How about instead of banning the poster, you simply ban every post/vanity/article that promotes pro choice ?
I’ve had a few comments removed over the years and one or two articles.
I’m not sure why you just don’t post your policy of all pro choice comments/articles will be removed and be done with it while keeping the otherwise sincere and decent posters around without the few thoughts that they have that you find to inappropriate, heretical or otherwise impure.
Agreed.
Whenever viewing a program with a bunch Libertarian clowns opining the value of “choice”, I see liars and frauds.
“The popular, liberalized Libertarian Party has dismissed the value of life”
I don’t think so. The libertarians may very well be pro life. It is that they think that each individual must make up their own mind and not be forced by govt. on the issue of abortion.
Common advice is for pregnant women not to smoke or drink.
Pro life freepers might want to enforce a law that women not drink or smoke. Libertarians would vigorously oppose such a law.
“I wanted SO much to say, ‘You look me in the eye, mom, and tell me that it was your right to kill me before I was born.’”
It may be she is opposed to abortion but does not feel comfortable to use the full force of govt. to force that viewpoint on every other woman in the country.
I make a distinction between the liberalized Libertarian Party and plain ol’ libertarianism. Click my handle to see how differentiate the relevant classifications.
If one believes that abortion is murder, there should be no hesitation in using the full force of government (that is government instituted by human beings to enforce such laws against theft, rape, larceny, vandalism, thuggery, assault, etc.) to prevent the “practice”.
“I do believe that God said: “Thou shalt not murder.”
I was always told that it was etched in stone that it is “thou shalt not kill”
But the imperfect men who have said that may have made the incorrect interpretation and god really did say “thou shalt not murder” and the imperfect of translation wrongly turned it into “thou shalt not kill”
Which brings me back to the fact that what is written in the bible is the word of god as it has been interpreted and written down by man.
In the context of man’s law, murder is simply the premeditated, illegal killing of one human by another. Abortion is not murder because it’s not illegal; thus, abortion is legal killing.
The Hebrew word translated meant “murder”.
Some say that Jesus is a pacifist and that the New Covenant replaced the Old Covenant, whereby killing of any form was now unGodly and against the teachings of Jesus. I do believe that when Jesus returns, He will not be very “pacifist” in dealing with the forces of Satan and the canard that Jesus is a pacifist should be discredited in that event.
That's a lib statement.
What you're saying is that God that can create a world and everything in it, on it and above it but can't control what's written.
Btw,
Man’s law is imperfect. God’s laws are not. If one wishes to give pre-eminence to man’s laws, then the myriad laws just in the USA should give one pause as to the evilness of those laws. I choose to follow the laws of God and nature’s God.
That was really stupid carlo. Your new found position is nothing more than the warmed over pro-abortion position that leaves the decision of whether to murder a child solely up to the “mother.” Following your logic, a woman should have a right to a very very late term abortion and you shouldn’t have anything to say about it because you are “A MAN.”
I thought you were smarter than this. You should have known that a vanity thread like this would result in your being thrown into outer darkness.
Likewise arguing that position when you stand before God will result in an eternal ZOT. Not good.
Your job as a “MAN” is to do all you can to ensure that the innocent are not murdered. Your position is to bury your head in the sand and pretend that God will not judge you or the nation because somehow it isn’t “Fair and Equitable” that a woman should not have the right to murder her unborn child.
For some of us, it is too late. We are already damned for what we did in our stupid, ignorant youth.
Knowing today what was not comprehended yesterday, it is our duty as men, and as women, to protect innocent life by all the powers and means that God has endowed us with.
God spoke of knowing us before we were formed in our mother’s belly. The story of the Guf is but one indicator of that fact. The soul is eternal, undying, immortal and the divine creation of God. Jesus said that what we do for the least of his brothers and sisters, we do also for Him. Defending the weakest and most vulnerable among us is a command that cannot be ignored.
I may be all wet, but I feel I have to speak up on behalf of my freeper friend, Carlo.
Something is rotten in Denmark.
Leni
I, for one, defer to your familiarity and good sense.
May a resolution be obtained that is equitable, fair and just.
“The original post and subsequent comments on this thread by “Carlo3b” appear to me to be inconsistent with his writing style with which I’m quite familiar.”
I am going to concur. Look at this one sentence.
from carlo3b
“In balancing, deliberating, and reasoning, there was but one undeniable truth, if it was the genius of our reproductive system, and the female of our species was chosen by design, biologically...”
Frankly, this is intellectual clap trap, blah blah blah, blah blah blah.
Intelectual clap trap is not Carlo3b’s strong suit. And I know intellectual clap trap when I see it because I occassionally engage in it.
I am on Carlo3b’s ping list and I have read alot of his posts and have learned almost nothing from hundred’s of them.
Why do I read them ? It is because Carlo has this refreshing naivate that puts a smile on my face. I find them to be plain, not very intellectual, but very addicting nonetheless.
Yes, something is rotten in Denmark. Carlo3b did not write this.
you are never ever never going to make all abortion, at every stage of conception, ILLEGAL
Why not? I see no reason why not.
Abortion is down, right now. More young people are becoming pro-life.
Much hope.
Carlo I think I get what you are saying. I see a lot of SARCASM in your post as I did when I originally glanced at it this morning on Facebook. Sarcasm about the way men have been regulated to the sidelines in this debate because after all they don’t matter since they don’t carry a child. What I think you are saying is NOT pro-abortion at all. You are saying that girls/women need to be told THEY have A LOT of choices WAY before it gets to the point of “needing” an abortion. I hope you will be allowed back. You are a true conservative. I know that from the things you say on HERE and on FB. You don’t need to be purged. Your comments need to be read in their entirety. Your thoughts are interesting and you write well. Love ya friend! :)
Carlo the restauranteur had been here a long time
I disagree with you
But Happy Trails.
Good pic
Had not seen it
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