Yep. I hate to side with the union but they got this one right.
He should have quit once the kid was decked, imho.
There should be some penalty for proceeding with the brawl while the bus was moving. Maybe a 12 month probationary period or something. I hope the driver gets the job back, after passing a refresher driving course. He is tough enough for that kind of job. You don’t want somebody too easily intimidated. The boy has been needing a good ass kicking anyway.
What if the black yout had a knife, and I wouldn’t be surprised, I read the news EVERY day.
What then?
Hope this guy sues....
How about that, it’s Trayvon all over again. How dare this driver defend himself against this direct threat to his life, he must be racist.
Isn’t it amazing how many people forget or don’t know how easily a person can be killed simply by being punched? One punch to the head can be all it takes and there are plenty of examples. This is a direct threat to his life and he has one of 2 choices: 1. Take the risk that he won’t be killed. 2. Don’t take the risk and defend himself. By firing him from his job what they are saying is he should have risked his life. Is that part of the job description?
Pig Nose Wiehl: “The kid is down, it’s no longer self defense at that point.”
Oh really? So the possibility that the kid could have a knife and stab the bus driver in the neck once he sits down should be completely ignored?
Didn't work.
Used to be a motorcycle mechanic(1970s). Not much winter work so I drove a school bus for a highly rated big buck school district.
Lots of snotty well to do kids. Most were easy to control. One day a HS junior or senior decided to try to get me into a fight. Posturing, language and verbal abuse. There was quite a little snow storm outside. I was pretty far from any houses. I stopped the bus stood up opened the door and growled while looking through this kid. “Now GET OUT, And don’t come back until you bring a note from the assistant principle that you have been disciplined and are now allowed back on the bus.”
Didn’t hear from him for At least two weeks when he handed me a crudely written note preported to be from the asst principle and a smile and an apology. I knew it was phoney but I also new the kid was no longer a threat.
if he was a teacher it’d be impossible to fire him. didn’t have sex wth him, didn’t murder him, he’d be untouchable.
that said i think this is a case for corporal punishment of the punk kid.
The driver should get his job back. He was forced to defend himself... And it’s a little unfair to excercise 20/20 hindsight on what he ~should~ have done. That’s the thing with defense— you don’t have time to sit and think and decide on the perfect set of responses in just the right order. That he didn’t even think to set the parking brake only backs up his defense position. He was being viciously attacked. He did what he could immediately do. The bus wasn’t moving at the time, so jumping out if his seat wasn’t unreasonable. Had the bus been underway it would have been different but his reaction would probably have been different as well.
It’s easy to sit back and think about a better way to fight back, or stop fighting at a different time but that’s all coming from the luxury of knowing how and when it all ended. He didn’t ruthlessly beat on the kid all that much. He got in his licks and kept the kid from being any further problem. Well done, I’d say.