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HCSO: Houston area father kills boy he found in daughter's bedroom
My Fox Houston ^ | 3/13/14 | Kathryn Yglecias

Posted on 03/13/2014 12:11:59 PM PDT by Sopater

Edited on 03/13/2014 12:16:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: SoothingDave
And now he's dead. She should have admitted what she had done.

And he should have had enough sense not to get into an argument with an enraged father.

The enraged father should have kept his head and used better judgement than either of the two teens. He murdered a teenaged boy.

141 posted on 03/13/2014 4:07:02 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Trailerpark Badass

“Sneaking into a man’s home to bang his minor daughter...in the middle of the night...in Texas...”

That’s almost like one of those number puzzles where you have to guess the next number in the sequence.


142 posted on 03/13/2014 4:08:53 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: ExTxMarine

“I believe many of you are mistaken in the belief that anyone is happy someone is dead”

When people say stuff like “good riddance”, then I don’t think it’s a mistake to assume they are happy with the outcome.


143 posted on 03/13/2014 4:09:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: tioga

Thank you.

I’ve never been in that EXACT situation (although a couple mighty similar) and I can attest to the fact that adrenline is wildly off the charts in every character in the drama.


144 posted on 03/13/2014 4:10:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I thought the only loaded weapon the boy had was his turgid pecker. Well, it’ll be up to the jury to decide.

The only jury that will hear this will be the grand jury. In Texas, the indictment has to come from the grand jury, not the police or the prosecutor. And based on the cases I observed while living in Houston, it will take no time at all for the grand jury to "no-bill" this case.

I remember a case back in the early 90's, when I was living in Houston. Someone from out-of-town, a Brit I believe, went out on the town and got drunk. Coming back, he could not remember which house he was staying in. He walked up to a house he thought looked familiar and knocked on the door loudly. When no one answered, he walked around to the back door and knocked again. The lady who lived in the home was frightened by this, and shot him dead through the closed door! She was never indicted, a fact that made the British government very unhappy.

145 posted on 03/13/2014 4:10:03 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Sopater

Throw the daughter in prison. Her immediate claim to her father that she didn’t know him, led to his death.


146 posted on 03/13/2014 4:11:05 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Will88

What? She told her father she didn’t know him which caused him to think the boy had broken in and raped his daughter against her will. Think about that for a minute. Her LIE got that boy killed. SHE caused his death. The father thought he was protecting his daughter.


147 posted on 03/13/2014 4:14:07 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: bigdaddy45
I’m not saying its an unreasonable consequence. My problem with some who are either a) celebrating the outcome, or b) implying the kid got exactly what he deserved.

There is a difference between saying he got what he deserved and saying what happened to him was his own fault. I'm don't think you can say he "deserved" to die, but no one can be blamed for his death except him (and maybe the daughter as well).

148 posted on 03/13/2014 4:14:16 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: little jeremiah

WHy is the father under such restraints? Was he combative?

************

He wasn’t feeling good and was being taken to a medical facility.
He’s on a gurney with medical equimpment etc.


149 posted on 03/13/2014 4:17:43 PM PDT by deport
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To: Trailerpark Badass

“I don’t know how you do things, but my daughter, at 16, had no authority to invite anyone into MY house without my expressed permission.”

Well, you may not think so, but legally it’s a different story. Take, for example, this Texas case which ruled a 14 year old’s allowing police into a home without a warrant amounted to an admissible search:

http://www.tjjd.texas.gov/publications/reviews/11/11-3-15.aspx

The standards vary from state to state, but it is pretty common for minor children to be able to lawfully allow people on to the property where they live.


150 posted on 03/13/2014 4:18:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bigdaddy45

“He was 17. She was 16. She invited him in. And he DESERVES to be dead in your opinion?”

She is a minor child under the age of consent (17) and there is no exemption from prosecution even if both parties are under the age of consent. Tragic set of circumstances, but I can’t in the end fault the father if things really happened the way he says.

Not obeying commands from the daddy holding the gun is a bad move at any time, especially if he thinks you’re raping his daughter.


151 posted on 03/13/2014 4:20:03 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: Sopater

Voluntary Manslaughter for the dad.
Involuntary Manslaughter for the daughter.


152 posted on 03/13/2014 4:20:15 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Sopater

sounds like a good shoot


153 posted on 03/13/2014 4:20:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ourworldawry

Sure, but the flip side of that is, if you are too paranoid, and don’t give them the opportunity to exercise any judgement of their own, what happens in a couple years when they will have to do that? You can’t tuck em under your wing forever.


154 posted on 03/13/2014 4:23:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Talisker
Unless the kid directly threatened an attack, this was murder.

You also obviously have never lived in Texas. Unless things have changed greatly since I left, just the fact that the kid was in his house, was unknown. and made a sudden movement is enough. Heck, the "castle doctrine" applies not only to protecting people, but property. If you catch someone breaking into you car, parked in the driveway, and he starts running away with your property, you could legally shoot him to stop him from getting away with your property. At least, that's the way it was just a few years ago.

So if you can shoot someone running away just to keep him from stealing your stuff, what makes you think you have to wait until someone who is in your house at 2 AM without your permission threatens to attack you before you can do so?

155 posted on 03/13/2014 4:24:52 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Surprise! Your daughter is a slut. And a liar. And you committed homicide.

When I was 17, a girl invited me over to talk over coffee. I had no interest in her other than as a friend at our high school, and I was acquainted with her boyfriend. So we were chatting over coffee in her kitchen, while her younger 10-year-old sister watched TV in the living room. Gal in the kitchen ambushed me with "affection", drags me to the couch and chases her younger sister off to her room. And shortly after, this gal drags me to her bedroom and strips. I protested the whole time. So we hear a car drive up, and she yells at me "it's my parents, get out now through the back door!". I hopped the backyard fence and left. If her father found me in her bedroom, I could've ended up like the boy in that story!

Anyway, later on I told a friend what happened. His eyes went wide, told me the same thing happened with him recently, and to a couple other guys we know, involving the same gal. The gal's boyfriend never knew what she was doing behind his back.

156 posted on 03/13/2014 4:25:06 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Sopater

I think if them daughter and father had enough time to converse about who this interloper was, and they boy was standing there without an escape route, the father is looking at premeditation. He will be indicted, and probably convicted of second degree manslaughter. The fathers response is predictable and understandable. I do not see a winner in this situation.


157 posted on 03/13/2014 4:27:01 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Will88
The enraged father should have kept his head and used better judgement than either of the two teens. He murdered a teenaged boy.

No. He dealt with what he perceived as an extant threat to himself and his family in a perfectly legal manner (in Texas).

Now, I will admit that with the same set of circumstances out ere in California, the dad would be going to jail for a long time. But that is because California has ridiculous laws concerning any kind of self-defense, let alone using a gun.

158 posted on 03/13/2014 4:27:25 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Semantics. Pretty sure the girl's dad screwed someone's "little girl" in order to be a father. Maybe he could be shot and killed, too?

Interesting. So you are equating a man having perfectly legal sexual relations with his wife to someone having sex with your underage, unmarried daughter?

Where are the Viking kitties when you need them? We seem to be infested with trolls on this thread.

159 posted on 03/13/2014 4:29:36 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Boogieman

You would be correct, and I rescind my previous statement.


160 posted on 03/13/2014 4:29:48 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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